OT: Things looking to be getting worse for Mangini - New England Patriots Forums

***Rob0729*** · 10-12-2007, 12:59 PM

From Profootball Weekly:

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NY Jets
Oct. 12, 2007

Mangini can't afford to bench Pennington ... yet

Despite Chad Pennington's struggles in directing the Jets’ stagnant offense, we hear head coach Eric Mangini feels he can’t afford to make a QB change just yet. For starters, he fears that opting for the stronger-armed Kellen Clemens would be viewed as throwing in the towel on the season, something he’s not ready to do at 1-4. More importantly, he can ill-afford to further cripple his already strained relationship with the team. Mangini’s authoritarian coaching style is detested by his players, and benching the well-liked Pennington would be seen as a supreme lack of loyalty. However, insiders tell us that if offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer lobbied for Clemens, he’d likely be successful. And as Schottenheimer has gone from prospective head-coaching candidate to incompetent assistant in the span of five weeks, he may be willing to do just that. In such a scenario, Mangini could save face by saying it was Schottenheimer’s decision, and Schottenheimer doesn’t risk undermining his rapport with players because they don’t have a personal problem with him. But if Pennington remains the starter and the losses continue to mount, it appears to be a foregone conclusion that Clemens will take over QB duties sometime before the end of the season.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...It/default.htm

Sounds like Mangini is ready to throw Schottenheimer under the bus right now. I hear that they have had to get a bigger team meeting room because everyone on the team wants to sit with their back to the wall because they are getting neck strains checking out their backs for daggers whenever Mangini is in the room.

FlyingElvis75 · 10-12-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

From Profootball Weekly:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...It/default.htm

Sounds like Mangini is ready to throw Schottenheimer under the bus right now. I hear that they have had to get a bigger team meeting room because everyone on the team wants to sit with their back to the wall because they are getting neck strains checking out their backs for daggers whenever Mangini is in the room.

Rofl.

I can't help but wonder if things would be that insane if the Pats started losing a lot. You'd think that Belichick's 5 SB rings would keep the vultures from second-guessing the coach. But then, Mangini has 3 rings himself.

***He Ban Me*** · 10-12-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

From Profootball Weekly:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...It/default.htm

Sounds like Mangini is ready to throw Schottenheimer under the bus right now. I hear that they have had to get a bigger team meeting room because everyone on the team wants to sit with their back to the wall because they are getting neck strains checking out their backs for daggers whenever Mangini is in the room.

That sounds like a similar head coach assessment, like from 2001.

***Rob0729*** · 10-12-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by He Ban Me

That sounds like a similar head coach assessment, like from 2001.

Nah! Tony Dungy was never like that.

Oh, you think it was Bill Belichick. Find one article where the players ever questioned Belichick's coaching style or lost faith in Belichick. Other than Tom Jackson's "they hate their coach" in 2003, there was none.

RayClay · 10-12-2007, 01:53 PM

I wish that were true.

Do you think the PFT guy has continuous access to their locker room?

And mind reading ability, I forgot that.

Whatever, sounds good.

EDIT: I forgot clairvoyance.

CTPatsFan · 10-12-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Nah! Tony Dungy was never like that.

Oh, you think it was Bill Belichick. Find one article where the players ever questioned Belichick's coaching style or lost faith in Belichick. Other than Tom Jackson's "they hate their coach" in 2003, there was none.

Certainly none that I recall.

Poor Mangina. Poor guy just can't catch a break.

JoeSixPat · 10-12-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

From Profootball Weekly:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...It/default.htm

Sounds like Mangini is ready to throw Schottenheimer under the bus right now. I hear that they have had to get a bigger team meeting room because everyone on the team wants to sit with their back to the wall because they are getting neck strains checking out their backs for daggers whenever Mangini is in the room.

As many in the "McDaniels as a HC candidate" thread made clear, its the Head Coach, not the offensive coordinator, who is ultimately responsible for the play calling.

So even though it's therefore wrong to make shottenheimer the scapegoat, looks like ManJuduas is set to stab another friend and colleague in the back.

***He Ban Me*** · 10-12-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Nah! Tony Dungy was never like that.

Oh, you think it was Bill Belichick. Find one article where the players ever questioned Belichick's coaching style or lost faith in Belichick. Other than Tom Jackson's "they hate their coach" in 2003, there was none.

I was referring to this:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/b/page/pre...969965,00.html

which is posted in another thread on this board.

***Terry Glenn is a cowgirl*** · 10-12-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by He Ban Me

That sounds like a similar head coach assessment, like from 2001.

are you a jest fan... or a dolt fan????

or, both????

***He Ban Me*** · 10-12-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

are you a jest fan... or a dolt fan????

or, both????

Colt fan, but the point is, the first post in this thread detailed thoughts on Mangini, and his coaching prowess. Well, earlier today, someone poted the 2001 reference, where BB was ranked like 30th out of 32 coaches. The book on him at that time sounds similar to what they are saying about Mangini.