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tailgater · 09-14-2007, 09:53 PM

Tom Curran was on FSNE tonight and said he thought (info from mangini?) that the jets desperately tried to get their hands on the tape before NFL Security got it, to no avail, because the Pats security team wouldn't allow it.

To me, it makes perfect sense. EM wa trying to prevent BB from continuing his practice of taping (for future games?). BB didn't. EM tried to stop it by seizing the tape, and it got totally out of hand.

Personally? I believe it. If you watch the tape of the game, mangini was VERY upset during the game, before it got out of hand, after the altercation began (before halftime). I thought it was because the Jets were getting beat. Looking at it again? I think he was upset because he knew this could destroy a lifetime of relationships, and possibly his career in the NFL, certainly his relationship with his best friend, his mentor, his hero, Bill Belichick.

Could this be one reason BB looks somewhat calm in the intervews? Or why the commish was pretty lenient in the punishment? Did Mangini go to the commish and make his case defending BB? Did BB hear his side of it?

Honestly? I think this is the truth. It feels right to me. Mangini just doesn't have it in him to do this. He isn't the scumbag he would have to be to do this.

***PatsDeb*** · 09-14-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tailgater

Tom Curran was on FSNE tonight and said he thought (info from mangini?) that the jets desperately tried to get their hands on the tape before NFL Security got it, to no avail, because the Pats security team wouldn't allow it.

To me, it makes perfect sense. EM wa trying to prevent BB from continuing his practice of taping (for future games?). BB didn't. EM tried to stop it by seizing the tape, and it got totally out of hand.

Personally? I believe it. If you watch the tape of the game, mangini was visibly VERY upset during the game, before it got out of hand, after the altercation began (before halftime). I thought it was because the Jets were gettin gbeat. Looking at it again? I think he was upset because he knew this might destroy a lifetime of relationships, possibly his career in the NFL, including his releationship with his best friend, his mentor, his hero, Bill Belichick.

Could this be one reason BB looks so somewhat calm? Or why the commish was pretty lenient in the punishment?

Honestly? I think this is the truth. It feels right to me. Mangini just doesn't have it in him to do this. He isn't the scumbag he would have to be to do this.

Oh BS - the punishment wasn't lenient and EM is FOS if this is the spin he's putting on it.

sieglo · 09-14-2007, 09:59 PM

I think you're right -- Mangini never intended it to get out of hand the way it did. But the "getting out of hand" part happened after the game when the media got a hold of the story. Mangini looked upset during the game strictly because the Pats were kicking his ass.

My theory is that Mangini, like any rational person, expected the Pats would get a slap on the wrist from the NFL if they were caught in a technical violation of the camera rule. Getting the Pats busted like this is consistent with the "border war" that's been going on for a while now.

Unfortunately, the media blew everything out of proportion and the punishment, far from being lenient like you say, was incredibly harsh. So ironically, Mangini emerges as a big loser. Law of unintended consequences. I have no sympathy for him.

***QuiGon*** · 09-14-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tailgater

Honestly? I think this is the truth. It feels right to me. Mangini just doesn't have it in him to do this. He isn't the scumbag he would have to be to do this.

Not only does this make perfect sense, but I've been saying it for several days now. In fact this morning I made a post "These 4 things I know are true..." #3 is as follows...

"3) Mangini never intended for things to spiral out of control this far and if he could take it back, he would."

Of course, that doesn't exonerate him for his actions.

PonyExpress · 09-14-2007, 10:02 PM

And that story will buy you a set of curlers. Mangini set this train in motion, defamed countless innocent people and tarnished the reputation of a legend. Why? Because he was an immature, foolish punk who should have heeded Bill's advice NEVER to go to a franchise as despicable as the Jets, and to wait a year until he was more mature to take a head coaching job. He thought he was playing a schoolyard prank; instead the tiger he was holding by the tail spun out of control and fire he was playing with blew up in his place. I'm not surprised Mangini has fashioned an excuse for opening up Pandora's Box. Excuses are for losers, and that's what he is. If he's so sorry, he should come out with a public statement apologizing, and admit that his own team and many others in the NFL do the same thing. Until he does that, his remorse is just a sob story to shore up a once promising and now plummeting reputation.

JJDChE · 09-14-2007, 10:03 PM

Before this incident, if you asked 100 NFL coaches what kind of reaction there would be to a team getting pinched for this video rule. 100 out of 100 would have underestimated the actual response.

FloridaHerb · 09-14-2007, 10:11 PM

And when a shark bites someone in the water they're not actually biting them, they're merely curious and nibbling because that's how sharks satisfy their curiosity!

Heck, a shark doesn't even like the taste of human flesh!

This is all great shark spin and I imagine it's of great comfort to anyone who just got their leg bit off.

slash83 · 09-14-2007, 10:13 PM

mangina is a fat rat, if he really didnt want it to happen it wouldnt of happened plain n simple... *** him

PonyExpress · 09-14-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by floridaherb

And when a shark bites someone in the water they're not actually biting them, they're merely curious and nibbling because that's how sharks satisfy their curiosity!

Heck, a shark doesn't even like the taste of human flesh!

This is all great shark spin and I imagine it's of great comfort to anyone who just got their leg bit off.

What are you babbling about? Maybe you should hire an interpreter.

DonBlackmon55 · 09-14-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tailgater

Tom Curran was on FSNE tonight and said he thought (info from mangini?) that the jets desperately tried to get their hands on the tape before NFL Security got it, to no avail, because the Pats security team wouldn't allow it.

To me, it makes perfect sense. EM wa trying to prevent BB from continuing his practice of taping (for future games?). BB didn't. EM tried to stop it by seizing the tape, and it got totally out of hand.

Personally? I believe it. If you watch the tape of the game, mangini was VERY upset during the game, before it got out of hand, after the altercation began (before halftime). I thought it was because the Jets were getting beat. Looking at it again? I think he was upset because he knew this could destroy a lifetime of relationships, and possibly his career in the NFL, certainly his relationship with his best friend, his mentor, his hero, Bill Belichick.

Could this be one reason BB looks somewhat calm in the intervews? Or why the commish was pretty lenient in the punishment? Did Mangini go to the commish and make his case defending BB? Did BB hear his side of it?

Honestly? I think this is the truth. It feels right to me. Mangini just doesn't have it in him to do this. He isn't the scumbag he would have to be to do this.

I agree that he is not a scumbag, because he's better than that. I think he's just a backstabbing rat pos who will be a pariah of the league by 2008 season. Regardless of the differences these coaches have, the one thing you never do is become a rat, snitch.

He is 5 levels beneath an amoeba when it comes to football fans view of him as a person. Henceforth is is called MANAMOEBA