denverpatsfan

After witnessing the venom spewed from most media outlets in reaction to this event I am pretty much done listening to sports radio, ESPN, NFLN etc. Most if not all mediots where so quick to grab the limelight and slam BB. Even some writers or radio personalities that I enjoyed ripped him. How can I watch or listen to these outlets knowing that they harbored a deep hatred/jealousy of BB and the Patriots all along.

Yes I realize I am a fan and maybe not as objective, but to swing the other way so sharply is disconcerting. There were very few people who looked at this objectively. It was like most people were just waiting for an opportunity to kick BB & the Pats while they were down. I have never seen anything like this in the past.

I won't be focused on sports 24/7 after this. Pats game on Sunday and then back to other hobbies, interests and chores that I have been neglecting. I will get some new CD's to listen to in the car instead of the morons on ESPN radio.

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PonyExpress

I agree. The problem is that there are TOO MANY sportwriters. Seriously, "sportsmedia" isn't a real profession for an adult. It's like being a professional movie watcher. The vast majority of these clowns are lazy parasites, living off the exploits and greatness of others. Why would anyone listen to them at all? Just watch the games, and mock the parasites.

Tunescribe

I agree with you. I was amazed at how zealously unbalanced and quick to judge most of the reporting was. It's hard to now see people I've given credence to in the past in the same light -- Schefter, Mortenson, Peter King, etc.

I also disagree with Goodell's ruling. It should've been a fine, maybe a one-game suspension but not losing a draft pick.

desi-patsfan

Yea this whole thing surprised me. People were just happy that the pats were caught doing something..anything. They acted like we bribed an official, kidnapped the opposing head coach's daughter and had a sniper ready to pick off the opposing QB if he threw a TD. Very sad....ah well i still have pats on Sunday's, the Sox to the world Series, and then soon the Garnett madness will begin.

thomas144

I feel the same way. This whole thing is just so overblown. Completely nuts and a real turn-off to me as a fan. A first-round draft choice for stealing signs?

JoeSixPat

No - the NFL has given its blessing to stealing signs - though they hope no one realizes this...

This punishment was designed to make it LOOK like the NFL is taking a hard line against stealing signs - when they all but advocate it - they just don't want the average fan to know it.

Technically its for using a recording device to steal signs rather than just visually - like the Dolphins did recording audibles.

I'm trying to remember how the Dolphins were punished for that. Funny - I don't remember them losing draft picks.

thesmee1

I visit this website and watch the games on Sunday. That's it, and I'm all the more happier for it. I get what I need from the people who post here.

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Colts Bolts

Poor denverpatsfan. Is your opinion of the media and the NFL "tainted"? Are you gonna cry? The bad ol' media is being so mean to you!

The Gr8est

It comes down to this, no one likes a dynasty except for the fans of the team that has one. Consider the animosity of fans from other teams whose own dynasties the Pats were threatening. Fans of the Steelers and Cowboys were coming here regularly when there was the possibility of a three-peat, to defend their own dynasty's relative positions in history. We would feel that way too if, say the Colts were to win a couple more SBs in the next 2-3 years. I don't really have a problem with that, it's what competition is all about.

Everyone was quick to congratulate the Pats for slaying the giant in SB XXXVI. We were everyone's darling at that point. Now, we are seen as winning too much and getting more than our fair share. This is the era of parity and no one is supposed to be able to dominate like the Pats have. They have done it in their own way and in the process have made the prognosticators look foolish. There has been a lot of comments on this site and others about the almost open hostility towards the Pats as their triumphs mounted, and to the cheerleading on sites such as ESPN to see the Colts win it. "Everyone wants to see Peyton Manning win a ring" they said, "It's the Colts time" they said. Conversely that means that "No one wants to see the Pats win again" and "They've already won their share, it's time for someone else."

A couple of times the Colts ran roughshod over Denver and KC in the playoffs and were looking like an unstoppable juggernaut, and "those damned Patriots had to up and win and just ruin it for everyone, who do they think they are?"

Where did the idea come from that victories were supposed to be distributed fairly and not earned? Where did the idea come from that Peyton Manning deserved a ring? We follow sports in general because we enjoy the thrill of the competition, and if it gets to the point where there is a hint that the contests are not being determined fairly on the field than that sport will quickly lose it's appeal.

I'm not referring to any "cheating" by the Pats. Roger Goodell himself said that the Pats did not cheat in the game with the Jets, and BB said "As the Commissioner acknowledged, our use of sideline video had no impact on the outcome of last week’s game. We have never used sideline video to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress."

I AM referring to the fact that the league ruled that stealing signs is okay, as the Broncos have admitted to, and buying a tape of audibles is also allowed per the NFL, although if the Pats had been the ones purchasing tapes of the Dolphins I suspect the ruling may be different. I guess it's okay if the underdog gains an advantage this way, but not when the bully does it to keep himself on top.

I AM referring to instances of highly suspect refereeing in the playoffs two years ago when many voices were calling for investigation. The Pats were one of the teams to suffer the most from the bad calls, but that's okay, they've already won their share.

I DO have a problem, with teams having influential members of committees being able to get rule changes and "re-emphases" passed that particularly help their own teams.

I DO have a problem with a team manipulating sound levels in their stadiums and turning off the A/C when it helps their own teams, but publicly decrying actions taken by other home teams to enhance their own chances.

The Pats have made the media look foolish on several occasions and now that there was an opportunity, the media exploited it and stirred the issue up in to a frenzy. The constant media speculation of the possible penalty put pressure on the commissioner to hand out a harsh penalty and that is what he did. It's kind of like when a referee or umpire has to make a controversial call in a critical game against the home team. Sometimes it's just easier to be gutless.

People like Johns Clayton were speculating on penalties based on the number of draft picks they had as if the Pats' superior abilities to amass draft picks should have any bearing on the penalty. A couple of years ago I believe the Redskins had only a #1 and a #5 pick, what would their penalty have been? We don't know, but I'll bet it would have been much less than what the Pats were given.

Now the Pats have been caught, not cheating, but violating a league directive about filming on the sidelines, and this has given the enemies of the Pats their opportunity to come after the Pats and take a pound of flesh. Even THIS penalty is not enough for some people, I read an opinion from a reader on ESPN that the Pats should be forced to give the #1 pick back to the 49ers.

This has become like a public lynching for jaywalking. I agree with the premise of this thread that the media reaction to all of this makes it impossible to ever look at them the same way again.

Know this though, Goodall could strip the Pats of all of their picks for the next three years and order the Pats to disband their roster, but as long as we get to keep BB, SP, and Bob Kraft, we would win the SB again in five years.

Screw the media and the rest of the league and their fans.

We are the Pats, and that is the best there is!

ClosingTime

So it's the media's and the NFL's fault that Belichick broke the rules (ie. cheated)?
You guys have no one to blame except Bill.
And one more thing. I keep reading again and again on this board that the NFL endorses, accepts encourages stealing signs and so having video is not that big of a deal. This is faulty logic on many fronts. First, if having video was no big deal then why break the rules? BB's "interpretation of the rules was incorrect" ranks right up there with Bill Clinton's debating the word "is". The rule is clear as can be.
Second, Im sure the NFL would like to see stealing signs disappear from the game but there is nothing they can do about it. How can you stop someone from looking at the opposing sidelines? You can't. So they do what they can to limit it and prevent technology from being leveraged to gain an unfair advantage.
Just take your lumps now and the story will eventually fade. But acting like a group that's been persecuted is juvenille. Mumbles has accepted responsibility for it, you all should take him at hs word.