My opinion: Belichick's final season - New England Patriots Forums

cubicle_6 · 09-12-2007, 05:50 AM

I think we have to prepare for the strong possibility Belichick walks away after the season.
Here's a guy who hates distractions, and he is the cause (imo) of the biggest distraction the team has ever faced.
Players will be fed stupid questions all year from both the ignorant and the biased.
Players' past achievements will wrongly be brought into question. Even Brady's legacy will be questioned.

I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for any explanation or apology from the coach for this "league matter".
I have never been a "in Bill we trust" guy. and I know there are those who will defend him no matter what...
I just happen to think us fans matter, and this scandal affects us, too, not just those within the organization.

***pats1*** · 09-12-2007, 05:54 AM

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

***DarrylS*** · 09-12-2007, 06:02 AM

Hey Cubicle 6, before you drink the koolaid of the detractors, let me ask you a couple of questions:

What is the advantage of taping the Jets Defensive Signals by a Media Assistant? How does he transmit the information? Who interprets the information and how does that get back to the playing field to impact play on the field?

Couldn't a spotter in the Press Box be doing the same thing? Couldn't someone in the crowd or someplace else on the field actually be filming the game for a purpose of cheating?

The only thing we know is that there seems to be a rule violation, nothing more and nothing less.

cubicle_6 · 09-12-2007, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GJAJ15

Hey Cubicle 6, before you drink the koolaid of the detractors, let me ask you a couple of questions:

What is the advantage of taping the Jets Defensive Signals by a Media Assistant? How does he transmit the information? Who interprets the information and how does that get back to the playing field to impact play on the field?

Couldn't a spotter in the Press Box be doing the same thing? Couldn't someone in the crowd or someplace else on the field actually be filming the game for a purpose of cheating?

The only thing we know is that there seems to be a rule violation, nothing more and nothing less.

I completely agree.
A trusted associate or 2 w/ binoculars, a good memory and a note pad would be the thing to do, if that's what you want to do.
Whether it's a quick look at a tape or a coach briefing th HC for a few minutes at halftime, that's what they could have done.

I happen to think the impact is minimal for this sort of spying, but that DOESN'T matter, unfortuantely, as we all know.
We've been branded as THE team that cheats, and I'm afraid nothing will change that, despite the belief everyone spies signals.

true_patriot · 09-12-2007, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GJAJ15

The only thing we know is that there seems to be a rule violation, nothing more and nothing less.

Exactly, NFL never used the word "cheating". We are charged with violation of rules, which if I remember correctly, all the 32 teams are accused of at some point. I can understand esteemed and educated people in ESPN making a mistake in this distinction, but can't understand how Pats fans can't understand this. It is simply a violation of rules. Draft pick/fine/knuckle rap!

PatsFanSince74 · 09-12-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pats1

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

i assume you're referring to the poster and not to a departing BB.

***fgssand*** · 09-12-2007, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by true_patriot

Exactly, NFL never used the word "cheating". We are charged with violation of rules, which if I remember correctly, all the 32 teams are accused of at some point. I can understand esteemed and educated people in ESPN making a mistake in this distinction, but can't understand how Pats fans can't understand this. It is simply a violation of rules. Draft pick/fine/knuckle rap!

Don't be stupid.....every victory, every championship, all the dominance is now bieng questioned by the haters of New England.

We have no answer for them...yet.

There has to be more to this.....please, let there be more.

PatsFanSince74 · 09-12-2007, 06:29 AM

the dynamic here that we will never know about is what is going on between Belichick and Kraft.

Does Kraft feel he was betrayed and embarassed?

Or, does he think of this as legitimate corporate espionage with which CEO's are all familiar?

Or, does he think that BB may have gone a little too far but it's no big deal?

We'll never know for sure, but if Belichick exits at the end of the season, we might get an idea.

tdw777 · 09-12-2007, 06:30 AM

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..... Couldn't a spotter in the Press Box be doing the same thing? .....The only thing we know is that there seems to be a rule violation, nothing more and nothing less.

Doesn't mean we condone what BB did...we certainly do not...but he is still our coach and the Pats are still our team. Man up and accept what punishment Goodell gives and move on. It is what it is. We fans can write off BB and the Pats..or we go on supporting them. Yeah I'm extremely dissapointed, but I'm still going to support my coach and my team.
Belive this: if BB ever left the Pats, those $%#@#$% teams and $#@#$% fans of those %$#$#@ teams calling for his head would be fighting to be first in line trying to hire him. BB is still the best coach in the NFL and we should be counting our blessings that he is coaching our team.

Are we better off with him or without him? I would not want to be seeing him in a cufoff sweatshirt with another teams logo. I believe BB is going to be a coach in the NFL next year and after and I would rather have him than any one else.

SVN · 09-12-2007, 07:27 AM

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Belive this: if BB ever left the Pats, those $%#@#$% teams and $#@#$% fans of those %$#$#@ teams calling for his head would be fighting to be first in line trying to hire him. BB is still the best coach in the NFL and we should be counting our blessings that he is coaching our team.

Are we better off with him or without him? I would not want to be seeing him in a cufoff sweatshirt with another teams logo. I believe BB is going to be a coach in the NFL next year and after and I would rather have him than any one else.

Absolutely.Iam not letting him off the hook if he is guilty of something but anyone who thinks he is a great coach because of only the stealing signals scandal isnt right. He is still the best.