Phoenix111

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=208472

I apologize if this has already been posted, but I didn't see it.
If you browse around the site I'm pretty sure they ranked DT's last week and Wilfork was pretty high up as well.

As for the ends, justifiably they have high praise for Seymour and Warren. I was a little surprised that they were kinda high on Green as well though. I think that's what we call praiseworthy by association.

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is it me or are Panthers not in there?

Peppers - best DE in league
Rucker-very good when healthy

added 2nd round Johnson..

sebman2112

No, the Panthers arent on the list. It's an AFC list, and I just double checked and the author didn't accidently list them.

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Phoenix111

For some reason they decided to do the NFC and AFC separately.
Here is the NFC list:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=209041

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my bad guys..thats 2 times recently that i made a mistake of forgetting the list is only AFC . sorrrrrrry

sebman2112

Yup, here's the Panthers:
"2. Panthers. Julius Peppers is an elite pass rusher in his prime. Mike Rucker is coming off a major knee injury, which could mean significant early-season playing time for Charles Johnson and Stanley McClover"

I liked Stanley McClover when he was coming out last year.

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Aqua4Ever04

Yeah we were the best until Kevin Carter was released, but I think it was a good team move to cut cap space and get Matt Roth in the lineup.

Phoenix111

Well, first of all, I had somewhat of a problem with this list to begin with. Its hard to determine who are the "best" ends in the game in a general sense. Ends have different responsibilities in different schemes on different teams. Castillo and Olshanksky are more space eaters than anything else in the SD 3-4 scheme. They just allow the linebackers to make the plays block free. Seymour and Warren do that to an extent, but I think they have more pass rushing responsibilities. Then, you have 4-3 speed ends who are strictly for rushing the qb.

For the Dolphins, Taylor and Carter were/are there to pass rush the qb mainly. For this purpose(yes taylor is a great player but..) I would rather have freeney and mathis than taylor/carter. When you had Carter, he was no longer in his prime.
I'm also going to say that Warren and Seymour are better than Taylor/Carter because they do more for their team and make more of an impact overall. NE's entire defense is based on dominant defensive lineman.

Basically, what I'm saying is Taylor/Carter were good, but I would still have them ranked 3rd at best.

Aqua4Ever04

Good point about ends having differnt responsibilities. I would say Taylor and Carter were easily the best pass rushing ends in football but they were not the best at taking up space and stopping the run. But I do disagree with your last sentence, I'd say they were number 1.

PATSNUTme

Here is the thread from last week. I get the print copy and I haven't seen the DE's yet.

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