brady199

At first I was shocked when i heard the pats were giving up a second rounder, for Welker.
I thought is was way to much to give up, after further deliberation here's why it was a good move.

1. He is entering the prime of his career
2. He is a proven nfl player
3. Obviously his return game is highly valued
4. And the Biggest Reason of all is - THIS DRAFT SUCKED, and a late 2nd round is almost the same value as an early 3rd round, and in this draft from what everyone is saying, Maybe you get a player of 4th or 5th round talent with that selection.

yeah and i know we threw in a 7th round pick as well, but with all our picks those guys didn't have a good chance to make this team anyways.

naclone

it was a great deal even before you factor all that in. bottom line is that draft picks aren't nearly as valuable as fans want to believe they are. fans look at day one picks and see pro bowlers just waiting to be picked up. that's almost never how it turns out. welker is a proven talent with added value relative to how his skills fit our system. and people here had a nutty about us drafting guys in the 5th and 6th rounds who would have gone undrafted. who exactly do they think we would have picked at the end of the 7th round Miami snatched away with that pick? i would say with 100% certainty that we would have used that pick on one of the guys we signed as an UDFA. so that pick was essentially worthless no matter how you look at it.

But Welker is worth a second in any draft. More so in this one, yeah.

PatsDeb

Wasn't it worth it just to give the Jets the impression that we are scared of them?

TomBrady'sGoat

he's fairly unique and he would have probably re-signed with Miami if they didn't get him now. that's the reason it was a good move.

I'd have much rather they save the 2nd rounder and sign a similar player or wait till next year. the problem was that similar players aren't frequent and he probably wouldn't have been available next year.

and you comment #4, the biggest reason as you put it, is in fact your worst reason. They could have done what they did with both their 1st and 3rd picks and traded it for a 2nd next year.

*edit* rereading this post, the tone is a little rude. rather than rewrite it i'll just say that i didn't mean to be a jerk.

Aqua4Ever04

I'm honestly not trying to bring up sour grapes, but you guys are WAY to high on him. Calling him proven may be a little bit of a stretch seeing as how he averages around 35 catches and 500 yards a year and has all of 1 NFL TD catch.

Sure he is a nice player out of the slot and can make some 3rd down catches, but he is nothing more than average. He hardly ever breaks big returns and muffs a lot of punts.

I was thrilled we got a 2nd round pick for Wes and we were able to sure up our line with that pick we got from you.

And please, don't give me that garabge that he was the #1 last year. Even though I don't like stats, Wes was 3rd in terms of production on our team (even in his career year and Chambers and Booker's worst years.)

I think Wes is looking at being your 4th or 5th receiver. If you think that's worth a 2nd and a 7th, then okay.

zippo59

How could we know if he is? We haven't even seen him play yet.

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primetime

His statistical averages can be thrown out because he didn't really emerge as a wide receiver until last year, when his statistics were good enough to make him the leading receiver on the Patriots. The Lions shouldn't call Mike Furrey proven because besides last year he caught barely anything and even played safety for a year? Please.

He doesn't need to catch touchdown passes, Randy Moss will be more than capable of that. But as a safety net out of the slot, he's real tough to cover.

naclone

maybe you're right, and he's not "proven", but New England has seen him relative to pro competition (as opposed to someone coming out in the draft). what he did for Miami has little baring on what he'll do for New England. The Patriots will put him in a position to accentuate his skill set. They obviously see something in the kid that they think will translate to their system. and that's good enough for me.

Aqua4Ever04

Okay I can understand this argument. But the thing is we can't really argue that. We won't really know until the season is in full swing. But to call it genious at this point is quite a stretch.

PatsWickedPissah

Contrast this poll with the earlier polls on Wanker when many here did not like the move. The most hilarious complaint back then was over giving away a 7th round pick.

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