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Old 03-04-2007, 07:27 AM   #21
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Default Re: What a surprise, here comes Borges with the negative spin.

When I see the name Ron Borges on the byline, I don't even read the article. His schtick is to be negative towards the Patriots and to alway be a contrarian. I don't mind criticism of the Patriots, but he goes way beyond that. He's a waste of ink, space, and time.
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:36 AM   #22
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Wow....the Sunday Globe, opened it up hoping for Pats articles after lots of FA activity. After a quick scan. We have our pathetic Borges article, an article on the Bruins on the front page, an article about Jonathon Papelbon, a Celts article and another Bruins one.

Wtf. Nice Newspaper. Who gives a **** about the Bruins.
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Great counter material from Borges himself, and who ever said you can't have it both ways? It was must not have been a sports writer.....
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Does anyone else think that Polian is going to try to come up with a rule that "coaches of the Pro Bowl can not sign a player he coaches," just knowing what a cry baby the guy is I sure he is pissed that AD is with the Pats.

God I hope the Pats open up in Indy and Thomas drops Peyton 3 times.
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Does anyone else think that Polian is going to try to come up with a rule that "coaches of the Pro Bowl can not sign a player he coaches," just knowing what a cry baby the guy is I sure he is pissed that AD is with the Pats.

God I hope the Pats open up in Indy and Thomas drops Peyton 3 times.
More like 5 times.
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Why do I continue to read this crap??????


http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...e_of_the_same/

>>>>>Banking on Thomas is no sure thing.>>>>>
Oh, Adelius, we forgot to mention one thing. Don't bother reading the Globe because some of the writers
would bemoan the tax implications if you hit the Powerball,seeing the negative of everything.......

From the article
>>>>Since the Ravens won the Super Bowl six years ago, they have lost a trainload of defensive talent in free agency. None of the players who departed went on to maintain their level of play at their new addresses>>>>>

Uh, the same could be said for the Patriots (see Law,T., Milloy,L., McGinest, W.,Washington, T., Hamilton,B., for example)
And if he had gone to another team, especially one in the AFC East, he would bemoan the fact that the Pats had to face him twice a year. Look at other LBs at 30, it's the time in BB's system that they have the knowledge to fully integrate the mnaterial. A player with a few years ( read 4 or less) just isn't likely to have the experience necessary at LB as opposed to other positions.

>>>>>What is worrisome, though, is whether the source of that production was more Thomas or the people around him.>>>>>>>
That must be a typo because I think the intended name was Ray Lewis.......



Compare this with Felger's opening paragraph....
http://patriots.bostonherald.com/pat...ticleid=186257
He’s known as “Slash”because of all the different positions he can play. He’s tackled LaDainian Tomlinson at the line of scrimmage and covered Chad Johnson outside the numbers. His former teammates called him “The Coordinator” because he knew the defense so well. He’s a stout, 270-pound linebacker who first made the Pro Bowl covering kicks. His former coach said he’s a cross between Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks.
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I actually found some of that to be of value. The AFC North GM who critiqued Thomas's style of play was valuable. I'm not taking it at face value, but it's good to hear a line of criticism. Of course, the Patriots like to look at what a player can do, and NOT emphasize his negatives. This GM doesn't understand that. The Patriots want to be in position to take care of your talents. They like to fit players together like puzzle pieces. They look for complements, so if you have deficiencies in the running game, well guess what. You'll be playing next to players who are stout. While they can't rush the passer well, or cover the TE,w ell that's where you cover up their deficiencies.

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So is his athletic versatility, the kind that would allow a football mind as facile as Belichick's to have a field day using Thomas's skills differently from week to week to create difficult matchups.
Say what? BB's mind is facile? Uh, go look up that word in the dictionary Ron.

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Since the Ravens won the Super Bowl six years ago, they have lost a trainload of defensive talent in free agency. None of the players who departed went on to maintain their level of play at their new addresses.

That is true of defensive tackle Sam Adams, linebacker Jamie Sharper, cornerback Duane Starks, safety Kim Herring, cornerback Gary Baxter, defensive linemen Rob Burnett, Keith Washington, and Lionel Dalton, and linebacker Ed Hartwell.
Sam Adams and Kim Herring made the Pro Bowl after they left Baltimore. Washington, Dalton, were not really ever stalwarts. Burnett was old when he left. So, Borges extrapolates from two free agent busts (Starks and Hartwell) that it's obvious the Ravens players only excel in that system, even though Hartwell busted because of injuries.
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Don't let the tool bother you. Only two days earlier in an article posted on MSNBC.com, Borges himself placed Thomas first on his list of free agents “most likely to deliver value for their services” :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17392462/page/2/

It must have been quite a challenge for Borges to somehow, some way paint a negative picture of the Pats signing. He rolls out a pretty weak argument doubting Thomas because of his age, his price tag, and the history of defensive players after the leave Baltimore. There are a number of Borgisms in the article, for example the obligatory unnamed NFL personnel man, AFC executive, etc. but my favorite occurs when he proceeds to manipulate Ozzie Newsome’s quotes regarding Thomas, player value and free agency:
"This was not an 11th-hour decision," Newsome said. "We've been facing that since the beginning of training camp [in 2006], knowing that we could have to make that decision. I think it was a fair decision. I think it was fair to the organization and fair for A.D.

"I had a chance to sit down and talk with him the Monday before I came to the combine and explained our position, gave him an opportunity to talk to me. I think it was the fair thing to do.

"The way we approach it, we come to the threshold of what we think the player's value is in Baltimore. When it goes beyond that, then we don't mind them going out the door. If we lose them, we feel like we can go out and find some more."
Sounds good Ron, but you forgot to mention that the last paragraph was actually spoken by Ozzie in direct response to a reporter’s question about Tony Pashos and Jarret Johnson! http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...e.jsp?id=16696

Just another example of how Borges’ personal vendetta against Belichick makes him a joke. He might have gotten all of Belichick's quarters in high school, but he wouldn't have even noticed that Bill copped his dollars in the process.
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Gee, I wonder what happened between the time Ron posted this to MSNBC Friday and the time he posted his Globe article this morning:
That time Borges thought SF would get Thomas.
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Borges isn't worth the aggravation unless viewed as entertainment because of how many times he's been dead wrong
More noteworthy is the fact that after an almost historical Patriot weekend in FA,The NYGlob offers up a take by none other than Borges (eternally anti-Pats), a regurgitation of the BB "flaws" written by somebody or another who they probably deem as "safe", then calls it a day.
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