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Old 08-16-2010, 08:00 AM   #11
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Auditioning Edelman as the eventual Faulk successor is really what is or should be being asked. He is not a full time runner, just like Faulk and Meggett before him, were not.

Ironically, it should also be easier to ask this question as the scouting on his collegiate career should answer that well, whereas his abilities as a WR were completely unknown, and merely an astute scouting projection.

Plus don't forget that Kevin did not just emerge magically as a great 3rd down runner/receiver/blitz-pickup-blocker. He evolved into that, after several years with Belichick's instruction, while "finding his role". Kevin was a classical, shifty, HB star in the SEC, more quick than fast. He wasn't fast enough in the NFL, and had a tendency to fumble, or have y'all forgotten that too? He also was not called on to blitz-block while setting SEC rushing records, some of which still stand. He had to learn how.

How dangerous as a running QB was Edelman at Kent State? The scouting reports and records should say. I know he already brings a new dimension to the proposed role; he should be dangerous with HB pass option, as a former QB. That is something neither Faulk nor Meggett did.

So who has the Kent State scouting on Edelman?
I'm pretty sure that both Meggett and Faulk were high school QBs.

I think Meggett's pro passer rating was better than Faulk's, however.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:30 AM   #12
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Edelman is an emerging player at an invaluable position on this offense. I could not conceive risking messing that up.

If you want to run him on the occasional gadget play, go for it, but a position switch? Maybe in a different offense , but the slot position is too valuable here.
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Edelman surely seems to have the talent for a Faulk-like RB role. But two questions would need favorable answers before he could actually assume it:

1. Can he take the hits?
2. Can he dish out the hits, specifically on blitz pickup?

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Yes and yes. He can do anything.
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I think he'd get destroyed.
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He is a perfect wildcat player, with his quartrbacking abilities.
I miss the trick plays that NE used to run. To me, they really kept defenses off balance particularly when used at the beginning of a game. Though, Brady is the best player on the team and theres no reason to take the ball out of his hands.

IIRC, Patten threw a TD pass off an a reverse vs Indy in 2001 ?
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Emergency, situational Faulk substitution only. Our Troy Brown Release 2.0 is not built for LB pickup duty.
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Edelman is an emerging player at an invaluable position on this offense. I could not conceive risking messing that up.

If you want to run him on the occasional gadget play, go for it, but a position switch? Maybe in a different offense , but the slot position is too valuable here.
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A resounding no to these questions. He simply is not built for it. He might be able to swing out of the backfield for passes and that's about it. If he ever ran a draw play on third down I'd be shocked.
Not sure I understand the difference between getting tackled while running with the ball during a draw or a swing pass? And we know he can go across the middle, so why say he "might be able to swing out of the backfield for passes"? He has proven without a shadow of a doubt he can.

Anyway, Edelman is bigger than Faulk, is as fast as Faulk used to be, and hits defenders harder than Faulk ever did. The only question is his ability to pass block.

I think Edelman is the perfect Faulk-replacement if he learns to pass block. He obviously can run with the ball - he was the leading rusher his last year at Kent State and you have seen him on punt returns and YAC. As a pass blocker, inside handoff guy, or chipping a pass-rushing De before slipping out for a pass, he would be superb IMO.
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It will be interesting to watch how KC uses Dexter McCluster, who was considered a combo 3rd-down back/WR. Edelman is both bigger and quicker than McCluster.
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I think there are a lot of dynamics to this questions.

But to me I think it comes down to the fact he has already shown he is a very talented WR already.

They are putting him in the backfield now I think more as a way to expand his role and get him a few more pass routes and chances for both him and Welker on the field together. I think if this package were to expand a little it would only make sense to include a few a run plays but really just to be trickey and to keep people honest.

I think the biggest issue with the question would be the blitz pick up. I honestly dont think I even cared how good a back was at blitz pick up in 99 when we drafted faulk but I imagine he wasnt that good then and I figure it is years of honing his skills that made him that good.
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