Brady2Welker

Can someone please explain why Joe Namath is even near "great" his career stats are awful, and he only won one Superbowl.

PatsWickedPissah

So Brady eeded to toss the SB game LOSING pick 6 to go 1-1 in the SB instead of going 3-1? Fool!

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NEGoldenAge

Why feed the troll?

Some db says someone is a very, very ,very good player instead of great. The douche is trying to split hairs, and obviously has no objective (or point) except stirring up a bunch of garbage. Ignore the little attention hoe, and get ready for an amazing ride... Brady's got a ton of new weapons.

PATSNUTme

How would you know what "great" is being a Jest fan?

Brady has 2 more rings than both Manning and Brees and a
helmet, look what I found, catch away form having another.

He's been to 4 SB's and that 4 more than the Jest have been to in 41 years. So, how do you measure "great"?

MoLewisrocks

It's as if Michael Silver launched international dump on Brady week... Apparently PTI weighed in today and they cavalierly opined that if Belichick thinks he can do better for less he obviously will...LOL

Mediots are such lemmings...

DaedalusX

Boston would literally eat Belichick and Kraft alive if they let Brady walk.

PatsFanInVa

Video assistant.

MoLewisrocks

No joke, that's still the path I believe the walkthrough taping rumor originally emanated from... Being housed in the same building doesn't give PFW any more access to Bill than you or I or Michael Felger has. What it does give them is access to every disgruntled or full of himself whackjob or wannabe intern on the payroll.

vyrago

Where's the support for your statement?
An opinion is only as good as its support, otherwise, it's "look-at-me" blather.

PatsFanSince74

No flames. We can't know, so you might be right about Brady. And, since we can't know, you might also be wrong. That's the benefit, in logic, of making statements based on an unverifiable or even false premise (in this case unverifiable); one can pretty much say anything one wants, without fear of rational contradiction. So, we'll have to wait and see. I think Brady and P. Manning both have a few more "great" seasons in them, but they haven't played them yet, so we can't know.

You use the phrases "great" and "truly great," but I'll assume they are interchangeable.

Brady and P. Manning have clearly both passed all of the tests, stats- and/or championships-wise to be confident that they will be regarded as among the "greats" and/or "truly greats," when they are enshrined in Canton. The numbers supporting that statement are old and familiar.

As for where they are, comparatively, today. P. Manning put up Pass Ratings of 99.9 (last year) and 95.0 (2008) in his last two competitive seasons; Brady put up 96.2 last year and 117.2 (2007). So, it's really pretty hard to say that one is "still great" and the other isn't. But, as I said in my opening remark, since the premise is unverifiable, you can say anything you want.

As for where Brees belongs, there is no doubt that he has been "playing" great (or truly great) recently. In addition, my personal view is that he has had the misfortune of playing for coaches and/or teams where he has been unable, until recently, to perform at the level at which he belongs.

But, he hasn't put up the body of work in terms either of championships or stats to be considered in the same league as P. Manning or Brady. Over the years, he's shown flashes of excellence, but has also been inconsistent. He has been in the league only one year less than Brady and two years less than P. Manning, but there is still plenty of time for him to make the kind of impact that I think he can make and that will get him into the category of "great."

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