JSn

I definitely don't discount the UDFA's, but on a team with SO MANY new players over two years, they're going to have to haul ass in OTA's and camp to make the team. I think a couple of them could make the P-Squad, for sure, but beyond that, until we get some more reports, I'd say I doubt ANY (from this class) make the roster this year.

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PatsWickedPissah

Negative Nancy posting here. Both in this thread and others, the biggest unknown aside from the players' camp performances is the inevitable training camp injuries to starters and backups that sadly do produce unexpected opportunities for guys to make the roster.

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patsinthesnow

Not saying much.

Deus Irae

Yes, when he's the only RB on the field, or when he's on the field with BJGE at fullback, at that point, Morris is the team's best RB on the field.

He's the team's 4th best running back overall, though.

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PATSNUTme

Well a team like the Colts had 12 according to that "study". So they can't be all on the roster because someone got injured. The difference between the players who get drafted in the last 4 rounds and those who don't is very small.

I would even say it's smaller this year because of the depth of players at many positions.

mgteich

Apparently the choice of 2010 running back should depend on age rather than ability.

I find the choice of both BJGE and Paschall over both Morris and Taylor to be a strong candidate for the worst analysis of the year.

Personally, I prefer not to have ANY developmental running backs on the roster. I think that Green-Ellis has been a serious waste of a roster spot. If we wanted a 5th rb, a fullback or short-down back would have made much more sense in the past two years, and thisn year for that matter. I don't think that we will carry four. I think of the roster spot being moved to our new h-back Hernandez.

Running backs should be acquired each year as needed, with long-term contracts as appropriate. I think it a HUGE step backwards to have two developmental running backs as our #2 and #3 halfbacks. Obviously, Faulk is our 3rd down, receiving back.

If Belichick didn't think that he could count on at least ONE of Morris and Taylor, he would have draft a running back and/or signed one in free agency (which could still happen).

The bottom line for me is that if Morris and Taylor aren't sufficient for 2010, then sign someone better. Green-Ellis and Paschall CANNOT be expected to be better than Morris and Taylor as we start the 2010 season. Obviously, either could be injured before the season starts, in which case we would need a replacement.

Patspsycho

Seriously, what is your problem with BJGE? He has not had the opportunity that Maroney has had, to show what he can really do.

patsinthesnow

What ability exactly does Fred Taylor have being the OLDEST runninghback in the league. Morris is not too far behind. I just think they are toast, both of them. We're going to see 2006 Corey Dillon from both of them. (slow as hell).

BJGE is entering year 3,I'd say he is past the developmental process. I think (I'm not the only one) he deserves to get 5-10 carries a game to prove himself.

mgteich

And why do you think that Green-Ellis sat on the bench when there were two injured running backs for times in 2009?

No player "deserves" a chance to play in the regular season. A player needs to prove himself in the preseason and in practices. Belichick puts the best players on the field. When we had only Maroney and Faulk healthy, Green-Ellis still wasn't worth having on the field. A player that does not get on the field when two players are injured at his position is either a raw developmental rookie, a top special teamer or a roster mistake.

In 100% hindsight, it is clear that there were better uses for a roster spot in 2009 than using it for Green-Ellis. At the time, and in a previous post today, I suggested a short yardage back or a fullback. A 3rd TE also comes to mind.

I have nothing against Green-Ellis. He's been given two years to show Belichick something. If he makes the 53, I will accept that he is a better option than those who do not make the squad. Given the situation in 2009, I would find it surprising that a roster spot will be there for him unless he can show that he is a better player than Morris or Taylor, AND hen is a player who Belichick would expect to play if one of the other running backs were injured.

patsinthesnow

BJGE was a ESPN top 10 highlight drop away from probably getting good playing time. I can't recall which game, but BJGE drops a diving catch in the endzone and BB took him out.

Like you said earlier though,if BJGE is cut, or one of Morris/Taylor is cut and BJGE is kept, we will see who is right.



You didn't answer my question though. You think Moris and Taylor can still provid at age 33 and 34? RBs usually tank at age 30.