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***mgteich*** · 04-05-2006, 10:15 PM

DON'T RUSH PLAYERS BACK

We have Light, Koppen and Harrison. We need them in top form for the playoff run, and for the playoffs. There is no reason to rush them back. Last year's OL will be better just because the rookies have learned the pro game. Hawkins provides stability. Think of adding these three to our team at mid-season. Awesome!

***BelichickFan*** · 04-05-2006, 10:41 PM

We paid the price for rushing Gay back by having him re-injure himself. One advantage of good depth SHOULD be that we don't need to rush guys back. In Gay's case we were unlucky that Poole and Starks were hurt too (Starks trying to play through it).

***fgssand*** · 04-05-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

DON'T RUSH PLAYERS BACK

We have Light, Koppen and Harrison. We need them in top form for the playoff run, and for the playoffs. There is no reason to rush them back. Last year's OL will be better just because the rookies have learned the pro game. Hawkins provides stability. Think of adding these three to our team at mid-season. Awesome!

Without a doubt, it is true, we need these payers back in top form for the playoff run, playoffs and Superbowl - however, it is also really nice to earn a bye and homefield advantage. I realize what Pittsbugh did, but also do not want to go to Denver this year.

I trust they won't be rushed back - BB is smart enough to evaluate the walking wounded based on what he sees in practice.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 04-06-2006, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

We paid the price for rushing Gay back by having him re-injure himself. One advantage of good depth SHOULD be that we don't need to rush guys back. In Gay's case we were unlucky that Poole and Starks were hurt too (Starks trying to play through it).

What a quaint idea, most folks felt the opposite about Poole in 2004 and again last year. I guess it just depends on fan favorites....

***BelichickFan*** · 04-06-2006, 06:58 AM

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What a quaint idea, most folks felt the opposite about Poole in 2004 and again last year. I guess it just depends on fan favorites....

Well, however serious his injuries were/weren't, the fact is they happened. Two years in a row he missed most of the season which put more risk on the health of the CB unit. Replace him with Warfield who has missed less than 10 games in his 8 year career (4 of which were a suspension) and the probability of him being hurt is way down compared to Poole.

***PATSNUTme*** · 04-06-2006, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

DON'T RUSH PLAYERS BACK

We have Light, Koppen and Harrison. We need them in top form for the playoff run, and for the playoffs. There is no reason to rush them back. Last year's OL will be better just because the rookies have learned the pro game. Hawkins provides stability. Think of adding these three to our team at mid-season. Awesome!

I don't know what you mean "rush them back". In order for them to play teh teams medical staff has to give them clearence to play.

If they have been cleared to play then they are fit to play. Are you saying that BB should sit them out longer? He will be able to tell in practice if they are ready to play. I don't think that the will put a player out there that is not ready to play.

Playing with injuries is part of being a Pro Footbal player. As long a playing will not make the injury worst, then BB will decide.

***BelichickFan*** · 04-06-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

I don't know what you mean "rush them back". In order for them to play teh teams medical staff has to give them clearence to play.

If they have been cleared to play then they are fit to play. Are you saying that BB should sit them out longer? He will be able to tell in practice if they are ready to play. I don't think that the will put a player out there that is not ready to play.

Playing with injuries is part of being a Pro Footbal player. As long a playing will not make the injury worst, then BB will decide.

See : Gay, Randall, 2005.

Others hurt, he is rushed in, re-injures his ankle, put on IR. That's what he means.

***mgteich*** · 04-06-2006, 08:32 AM

The coach has a choice with regard to how much to use injured players. We have overused them in the past. Sometimes a coach has no choice. When a team has adequate depth, the team allows the injured player to sit and allows the backup to step in.

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

I don't know what you mean "rush them back". In order for them to play teh teams medical staff has to give them clearence to play.

If they have been cleared to play then they are fit to play. Are you saying that BB should sit them out longer? He will be able to tell in practice if they are ready to play. I don't think that the will put a player out there that is not ready to play.

Playing with injuries is part of being a Pro Footbal player. As long a playing will not make the injury worst, then BB will decide.

***PATSNUTme*** · 04-06-2006, 08:39 AM

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See : Gay, Randall, 2005.

Others hurt, he is rushed in, re-injures his ankle, put on IR. That's what he means.

How do we know he was rushed in? How do we know that he wouldn't have injured his ankle and been put in IR if he had no previous injury?

***BelichickFan*** · 04-06-2006, 08:43 AM

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How do we know he was rushed in? How do we know that he wouldn't have injured his ankle and been put in IR if he had no previous injury?

Because we know he was rushed back for the 2nd half vs. Indy when Starks continue to suck. Gay was literally limping. He wasn't ready to play, Belichick took the calculated risk given the situation. Had Gay had 2-3 more weeks to rest he likely would have been 100% and at much less risk of re-injury.