jczxohn1

If you're referring to me, I don't make crap up.

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``The officials now are evaluating the players and their performance, I mean, that's great,'' Belichick deadpanned. ``I can't say how much that means to me, really.''

Hoodie

Ya know how BB is always calling for goal line cameras. Do you think a goal line camera would have helped on this one ? (assuming the ref's weren't actually trying to help the Stillers win.)

BTW -- he didn't get in.

jczxohn1

That was my point! And no, I didn't think he got in either.

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Felger started his question, "Correct me if I'm wrong," BB quickly interjected, "I can't wait--"


``The officials now are evaluating the players and their performance, I mean, that's great,'' Belichick deadpanned. ``I can't say how much that means to me, really.''

MoLewisrocks

Thing is when in doubt, no call is the right call. In this case no call equals no TD. If you're clearly wrong, replay will show it. If it's too close to call either way on replay, as most say this was, then it never should have been called a TD to begin with. As Ben claimed they were prepared to go for it on 4th down, you can continue to persue something denied. But once points are awarded the irrefutable evidence standard is an extremely tough nut to crack.

If the line judge believed he saw the ball cross the plane in the air he should have stood his ground and called TD right then and there. By running in to check the pile, he killed that argument. He was withholding judgement until he checked the pile - where unfortunately Ben was caught on camera sheepishly pushing the ball forward over the line seconds after he was down. Only then did the line judge call it - after assessing the position of the ball and the player when he arrived at the pile. If he felt he needed that view to "confirm" something else he believed he had seen seconds earlier, then the confirmation he thought he got was bogus.

What the replay did show pretty clearly was Ben didn't get in low on second effort because a defender drove forward and killed his forward progress from below as the pile sank.

Believe me, if Ben remotely thought he'd made it he would have said I think I was in.

stcjones

Rottenburger HIMSELF, KNOWS that he DIDN'T get in!!!! On all the replays I have seen....he doesn't look like he got in....then you watch his face and next actions.......he is right as he said on letterman...."I didn't score"......at least i appreciate his honesty......

ilduce06410

i don't know about all the "making crap up" stuff
but whatever the linesman was signalling, i'd bet my left nut it wasn't "touchdown".
he ran in from the sideline, and then didn't raise his arms for maybe a full second. during that time, ben sneaked the ball over the line.
i don't blame ben one bit. it's what any of us would do.

Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

I think this play wasn't one of the ref's screw ups. In my eyes, when Ben was flying in the air before he got hit backwards...I seen the ball at least touch the edge of the white line. He went forward again to try for more yards. I think he got in. But that is my opinion.

Where Jackson touched the defender, then the defender touched him back...that should have cancelled each other out. Maybe not a touchdown...but it was almost as inane as Samuels PI on Lelie in the brokebacks game. Lelie was touching Samuel WAY MORE...if anything, it should have been called offensive PI. That call made me LIVID.

shakadave

It was clear to me that he got it in. Just barely in. Certainly not overturn-able.

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Michael

From the side view (which we all know is not on the goal line and therefor skewed) you can not make the call because the ball is tucked between his arm and his chest. The Seahawk player's (Lewis I believe) arm is in front of his arm with the ball. And they both come down just outside the line. That is clear from the low camera by the end zone. That is a clear reference point where the ball can be clearly seen. That eliminates any optical illusion from skewed angles. I've watched it in hi res back and forth many times and I'm thoroughly convinced with Rothlisberger himself that he did not get in.

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Steel77

The play was so close how would Ben know if he got in or not? Go on any Steeler MB, there are a number of threads devoted to this showing still frames from the play where it CLEARLY shows the ball breaking the plain of the goalline. The call is difficult because it is so close and the way Ben has the ball, his arm is obscuring the tip of the ball, but it's obvious he scored after looking at the photos IMO...

BTW, the photos on this page show Ben after he broke the plain and they're from a HORRIBLE angle as well. Nice going...