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Old 12-15-2009, 09:44 PM   #1
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Default 2000-2009: Pats 5 best/worst draft picks

Everyone will have their own opinions but here is my 2 cents:

Best
1)Tom Brady QB Michigan (2000 draft - 199 overall)
No explaination needed on this one.
2) Richard Seymour DT Georgia (2001 draft - 6 overall)
Seymour played in five Pro Bowls, has been named to four All-Pro teams, and has been a member of four Super Bowl Patriots teams (3 time winner).
3) Matt Light T Purdue (2001 draft - 48 overall)
Light is a 3× Super Bowl champion, 2× Pro Bowl selection and one time All-Pro selection.
4) Asante Samuel DB Central Florida (2003 draft - 120 overall)
2× Super Bowl champion, 2× Pro Bowl selection and one All-Pro selection. Started career in NE slow (6 picks in first 3 yrs) but exploded in 2006 (10 ints) and 2007 (6 ints). Would be 3 on my list if he was still a Pat.
5) Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL) (2004 draft - 21 overall)
Immovable rock in the center of the Pats D-line. He has 1 Super Bowl champion, 1 Pro Bowl selection and 1 Second-team All-Pro selection

Honarbale mention:
David Givens WR Notre Dame (2002 draft - 244 overall)
Deion Branch WR Louisville (2002 draft - 65 overall)
Ty Warren DT Texas A&M (2003 draft - 13 overall)
Dan Koppen C Boston College (2003 draft - 164 overall)
Logan Mankins G Fresno State (2005 draft - 32 overall)
Matt Cassel QB USC (2005 draft - 230 overall)

Worst
1) Chad Jackson WR Florida (2006 draft - 34 overall)
Pats moved up to draft Jackson early in the second round. Proved to be too injury prone and immature for the NFL. Pats cut him before the start of the 2008 season. Patriot career totals: 13 rec -152 yards - 3 Tds
2) Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M (2003 draft - 45 overall)
Like Jackson this speedy WR never developed for a 2nd round pick. While he had some nice Kick Off Returns he was awful as a WR. In his 3 years in NE he averaged 10 rec - 150 yards - 1.33 TDs. This with TB throwing him the ball. To add insult to injury. the next WR taken in the draft was Anquan Boldin.
3) Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State (2004 draft - 63 overall)
Hill tragically died in May of 2007 so it was possible he was going to develop but during his 3 years with the Pats he played in 13 out of a possible 48 games and totaled 3 tackles. 1 tackle a year for a second round pick? Brutal! Very next pick - Pro Bowl DL Darnell Dockett
4) Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State (2008 draft - 94 overall)
3rd round pick lasted 1 season in NE before being cut. Total waste of a pick. When you consider how bad the Pats need a 3rd WR right now it has to hurt knowing WR Mario Manningham was draft by the NYG with the next pick in the draft
5) Dave Thomas TE Texas (2006 draft - 86 overall)
BB loves to draft TEs (Graham, Watson, Mills etc) but none of them have ever been great. Thomas only lasted 3 years in NE totaling 21 rec - 261 yards - 1 TD)

Dishonorable mention
Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota (2006 draft - 21 overall)
Adrian Klemm T Hawaii (2000 draft - 46 overall)
Guss Scott DB Florida (2004 draft - 95 overall)
Garrett Mills TE Tulsa (2006 draft - 106 overall)
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Dishonorable mention
Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota (2006 draft - 21 overall)
this is where you lost all credibility
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(as a function of their draft position)

1. Tom Brady
2. Dan Koppen
3. David Givens
4. Asante Samuel
5. Matt Cassel

1. Chad Jackson
2. Bethel Johnson
3. Marquise Hill
4. Guss Scott
5. Kevin O'Connell
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Nice list, but I agree that there's no way Maroney should be mentioned here. A true first round bust wouldn't still be producing like him. I'll admit, he frustrates me. His first game in the NFL, still a vivid memory to me, he was Barry Sanders reincarnated. Still he's a decent running back; I'd rate him closer to the middle than to the worst of starting RBs. The biggest knock on Maroney is that we passed over DeAngelo Williams, but then again, it's so hard to predict these things. Bill Polian wanted to draft Maroney as well... and who is a better talent evaluator than Dr. Evil?

I'd have to put Ben Watson on the list of honorable mentions for worst picks, which may seem like a contradiction because like Maroney, he is another first rounder who is decent but not great. But Watson is one of the few players who doesn't seem to benefit from having Tom Brady at quarterback. He has all the physical tools. Brady has tapped into the potential of guys like Graham, Gaffney, Givens, and Caldwell. Watson is immensely talented but clearly is not a very good pass catcher. He's been in the system a long time, and the Patriots have had lots of ultra talented players on the field which should exploit matchups. The guy is just never going to get to the next level.

I know it's too early, and knock on wood, but I anticipate Sebastian Vollmer eventually making his way to #2 on this list.

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Its a good list and ye sMaroney does deserve to be there. Hes done well recently but look at his overall career in New England. He hasnt produced the way a first round draft pick should have all these years. He's been outplayed by RBs drafted after him.

It was a bad pick no matter how much you want to homer yourself into thinking it wasnt.



A few years from now I think we'll have Vollmer, Butler, and possibly Chung on the Best recent picks lists.

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Nice lists. Thanks for all the work.

I guess the Maroney argument comes down to whether he belongs because he didn't turn out to be what people hoped he would be or whether he doesn't belong because he's turned out "only" to be a productive (even very good at times) back. I tend to agree with those who believe he doesn't belong anywhere near the "worst" list. Otherwise, we'd have to put every first rounder who didn't make the Pro Bowl in his first five years on it.
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Mario Manningham sucks btw.
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you have koppen and light reversed

if you have oconnell in there, then you need to have crable right there next to him

you missed adrian klemm

you can already add ron brace to the list
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