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olschool · 11-03-2009, 01:14 PM

Like Fredo, he took advantage of his connection to the family, without once thinking that his entitlement came with responsibilities.

Fredo never thought that he had to pay his dues, and neither does Mangina.

Like all rats, he'll drown when the ship sinks.

Ochmed Jones · 11-03-2009, 01:15 PM

If Mangini is out as HC in Cleveland after the season, maybe next season he can become the next head coach in Oakland.

***Patsfanin Philly*** · 11-03-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by R_T26

Diner morning news: Kokinis never had a chance | National Football Post

great article, interesting to hear that mangini was relieved of his dc duties during the 2005 season.

From the article,"
. >>>>A recommendation by Mangini that Kokinis be his general manager and that Erin O’Brien be employed somewhere in the organization — after everyone at the Jets warned the Browns not to allow Mangini to make that move. O’Brien is the Manginis’ former babysitter and a friend of his wife Julie. Both Kokinis and O’Brien are now gone....>>>>>>

Yeah, those are qualifications if I ever heard them........

mosi · 11-03-2009, 01:43 PM

Well tell me how you really feel? Man that is a brutal indictment of who and what Mangini is. Man, what a read. Poor, poor browns.

***Rob0729*** · 11-03-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Patsfanin Philly

From the article,"
. >>>>A recommendation by Mangini that Kokinis be his general manager and that Erin O’Brien be employed somewhere in the organization — after everyone at the Jets warned the Browns not to allow Mangini to make that move. O’Brien is the Manginis’ former babysitter and a friend of his wife Julie. Both Kokinis and O’Brien are now gone....>>>>>>

Yeah, those are qualifications if I ever heard them........

LOL! Too funny. When I was a kid, I was Danny Ainge's paperboy. I feel I got screwed now.

JoeSixPat · 11-03-2009, 11:09 PM

An instant classic

Diner morning news: Kokinis never had a chance | National Football Post

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Originally Posted by excerpts

I feel badly for George Kokinis, who is out as general manager of the Browns. Moving to Cleveland proved to be a great financial move for him, but a poor professional one in aligning himself with Eric “The Secret” Mangini.

My fundamental question is: How did Mangini convince Lerner, based on his tapestry of work while at the New York Jets, that he was the right man for the job? Was it that cameo on “The Sopranos” that made him so alluring?

Look, I’m all for the Sopranos, but I’d rather have Uncle Junior coaching the team than Mangini.

Lerner has had six months to watch the decisions and recommendations of “The Secret,” and here’s what he’s seen:

1. A collection of former Jets players who are marginal starters for the team and probably will not be a part of the eventual rebuilding.

2. A poor evaluation of his own quarterback situation, to the point where the team held the fifth pick in the draft and gave the Jets a quarterback who might have saved their franchise. When you pick high, you have a chance to repair your team at the most critical positions.

3. A recommendation by Mangini that Kokinis be his general manager and that Erin O’Brien be employed somewhere in the organization — after everyone at the Jets warned the Browns not to allow Mangini to make that move. O’Brien is the Manginis’ former babysitter and a friend of his wife Julie. Both Kokinis and O’Brien are now gone.

4. A coach who has demonstrated no ability to communicate with the fans to let them know there’s actually a plan in place to repair this sacred franchise. He’s the team spokesman, but the problem is that he doesn’t speak.

5. An offense so abysmal that it shows no hope of ever scoring.

Is this enough to make you want to be patient?

fillylabinga · 11-03-2009, 11:49 PM

I thought this was the most interesting part:

"The Patriots under Mangini in 2005 gave up too many big plays down the field and were so poorly synchronized that head coach Bill Belichick was forced to take over the defense in mid-stream. Every time Mangini was given more responsibility in New England, he was not successful. Conversely, every time Josh McDaniels’ role was increased, he kept getting more and more successful. However, in spite of Mangini’s bad year, he was rewarded with a head coaching job based on Tannenbaum’s recommendation."

To the untrained eye it looked like Mangini had a pretty bad year as D-Coordinator before he left to become HC of the NYJ. My most lasting image was of BB yelling at him for some bad coverage the Pats were in (actually could have been the year before).

I don't recall BB ever yelling at a coach like he did that time. Anyone else remember that?

***KontradictioN*** · 11-04-2009, 02:02 AM

If Lerner cares about that team in any form or fashion, Mangini will be gone by the end of this season. I saw a stat the other day that made my jaw drop: that the Saints defense has scored more touchdowns than the Browns offense.

DrLev · 11-04-2009, 06:41 AM

Does anybody else think if Mangini doesn't get his you-know-what together, it may be a long time before he sees another pro head coach position?

***Sean Pa Patriot*** · 11-04-2009, 06:52 AM

Again alot of Mangini 's fault should be blamed on tanenbum, since he hired him for the jets, because of his hatred for the pats... But Mangini is not doing himself any favors either... He will end up in college somewhere after this year, Mangini will not be back next year, its still a miracle that he got a second job so quickly..