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Old 12-25-2005, 02:12 PM   #11
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The probowl is a complete joke. If any of the Patriots get there...then fine I guess. But it isn't an accurate choice by the people who decide it.

I would rather have a superbowl ring anytime.

...is Ron Mexico really going to be in the probowl? That would explain everything right there.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:49 PM   #12
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I've always thought Pro Bowls are too often crap and Mike Vick is a good example. While Patten wasn't doing much in Washington, most years he was a Patriot, they didn't have much else to throw too which made him more valuable here. I think some ex-Pats have done pretty well. Woody is the Lions best OL, as someone else said, Andruzzi has helped the Browns have a run game, A Smith has done about what he did here when he's played, both TW and Bobby Hamilton have played well for the Raiders, although TW has been hurt. Milloy hasn't done any worse than he did his last year here and Law played pretty well considering the injury he had. Wiggins has become a better TE with the Vikings.
And there are some FA's the Patriots have picked up that haven't panned out as well as they'd looked with other teams either. BB and Pioli have done very weell over the years with FA's and the draft. But, they haven't been perfect either.
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I also think what your noticing seems to bear out that the Patriots "spread the wealth" of spending to the cap by the way the middle 1/3 tier of players are paid.
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Or Brady. There has always been the question as to whether Brady would succeed without Bill Belilchick?
I don't believe it. Brady is not a "system QB".
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:45 PM   #15
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Just asking what I thought is a legitimate question.

I am trying to reconcile that fact that we have one of the highest payrolls in the NFL, yet we only have 2 legitimate Pro Bowlers.

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It's because the Patriots don't tend to buy high or low, but get the middle priced players. Thus few superstars (although I'd throw Vinatieri into the mix) but a lot of solid football players, allowing us more depth than most teams. For instance, how would have Indy done after losing Harrison and James at the same time (we had Dillon, Faulk, Pass, Givens out all at once)? So while we have few superstars, we have few weak links either. That works with Belichick's system, which requires teamowrk not super-human effort from one or two positions. And this has allowed us to perform at high levels while suffering significant injuries the past few years, and even clinch division this year.

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I am not trying to sound like a "troll", as a previous poster is trying to insinuate.

Just asking what I thought is a legitimate question.

I am trying to reconcile that fact that we have one of the highest payrolls in the NFL, yet we only have 2 legitimate Pro Bowlers.

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What does the amount of pro bowlers have to do with salary cap management. you have to pay 53 good players to field a team not 5 or 6 pro bowlers.
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Which leads me to question if we are "overpaying" many of the players. We keep bringing up "home town discount", but the reality is that many of these players may be getting paid more than what they could get from other teams.
Please name these overpaid players. It is rather easy to pick out players on IR (Starks, Poole). BB and Pioli did not have the benefit of 20-20 hindsight as your post does.
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But the team is still very dependent on very few key players like Brady.
What team is not???

Look at the Eagles. They have been one of the best cap-managed teams over the past several years. They have gone from a SB contender to a below .500 team. Why?? They lost a few key players.
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Please name these overpaid players. It is rather easy to pick out players on IR (Starks, Poole). BB and Pioli did not have the benefit of 20-20 hindsight as your post does.
I thought Dillon may be overpaid at $25 M for 5 years. Do you think any team will offer him that much? Don't get me wrong, I like Corey.

I can also name a few more, but I ran the risk of being called a troll .


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I thought Dillon may be overpaid at $25 M for 5 years. Do you think any team will offer him that much? Don't get me wrong, I like Corey.

I can also name a few more, but I ran the risk of being called a troll .


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