Roughing the passer getting out of hand... - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***reflexblue*** · 10-11-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiZa

The sad part is the cheap calls are now forever known by the media as "the Tom Brady rule". I wonder if Mortenson had anything to do with that.

Last week someone called Brady the NFL's "Golden Boy" to me thats a description of Manning, or at least it was. Hes always been an untouchable.

BradyFixesEverything · 10-11-2009, 10:48 PM

I thought it was dirty, definitely a penalty.

onebad86gt · 10-11-2009, 11:49 PM

to me it goes either way... a fan for the team gettin the yards isn't gonna mind it as long as there qb is ok, but a fan of a team givin up the yards will argue it almost everytime... unless its pretty obvious..

honestly, i don't get what the defenders are supposed to do... if you hit the qb up high you take a chance of hittin the facemask or helmet and gettin a flag... and if you hit the qb low, then your prob gonna get a flag... so what exactly are they supposed to do out there? lol

SoonerPatriot · 10-12-2009, 10:34 PM

Thought this was worth bumping after the refs just made a highly questionable PI call that will likely cost Miami the game.

This wasn't a roughing call, but nobody pays money to watch these old ***** throw flags all day. The league had better get a handle on this before it starts turning a lot of people off the game. The penalties are becoming a bit of a running joke already.

JFK · 10-12-2009, 10:53 PM

The National Fruity League.

chrisfx811 · 10-13-2009, 07:46 AM

The 'defenseless receiver' rule sucks too. Part of playing defense is intimidating wideouts when they come over the middle. It's not like the Miami guy laid out the Jets WR well after the ball was gone. He was committed to the hit while the ball was still en route, and just as the ball went through his hands he crunched him.

If they wan to try and call it spearing, where was the spearing on Denver's Brian Dawkins when he unloaded his helmet into Welker's back?

WhiZa · 10-13-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisfx811

The 'defenseless receiver' rule sucks too. Part of playing defense is intimidating wideouts when they come over the middle. It's not like the Miami guy laid out the Jets WR well after the ball was gone. He was committed to the hit while the ball was still en route, and just as the ball went through his hands he crunched him.

If they wan to try and call it spearing, where was the spearing on Denver's Brian Dawkins when he unloaded his helmet into Welker's back?

If the ball was closer he would off caught it and took the big hit without any call. Because it was 10 feet over his head he looked defenseless and the safety put took much emphasis on knocking the guy out to make him bobble it, instead of just wrapping him up. Maybe he did that out of habit.

pencilneckgeek · 10-13-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill B.

Meriweather was blocked to the ground and just rolled into Orton's ankle. Not even close to being a penalty.

It was Wilhite, and he deliberately rolled to get to the QB which is a penalty, despite it being a stupid rule, although I can see how the ref wasn't sure.

The interpretation of the rule to err on the side of safety is the problem. It's football; people are going to get hurt. The game needs to retain it's violent essence, and drilling a guy with your shoulder pad up high to dislodge the ball is part of that. As long as it's not a direct head shot, let it go. Every player on the field with the possible exception of cornerbacks and kickers are at high risk for head injuries. There's no getting around that. Singling out the pretty-boy QBs and WRs for protection makes no sense.

Bill B. · 10-13-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisfx811

The 'defenseless receiver' rule sucks too. Part of playing defense is intimidating wideouts when they come over the middle. It's not like the Miami guy laid out the Jets WR well after the ball was gone. He was committed to the hit while the ball was still en route, and just as the ball went through his hands he crunched him.

If they wan to try and call it spearing, where was the spearing on Denver's Brian Dawkins when he unloaded his helmet into Welker's back?

Two words for you. Darryl Stingley. Maybe you are not old enough to remember this great wide receiver, but he was paralyzed when he went up for a ball that was thrown over his head and Jack Tatum of the Raiders took a cheap shot and nailed him. Sorry, but this rule is legitimate and us Patriot fans with long memories think it is a good rule.

sieglo · 10-13-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigtimeColtsfans

Those calls were BS. And I totally agree it's out of hand. I've commented on this before, but it's only a matter of time before a ref calls one of these ticky tack penalties in a playoff game or important game and costs a team it's season.

This rule is going to blow up in the leagues face.

I just hope it's not the Colts when it happens.

The Colts season has been saved by ticky tack (or nonexistent) penalties on more than one occassion, and I'd be shocked if it didn't happen again.