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Patriot Missile · 10-07-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MassPats38

I still have flashbacks to 2005 and that playoff game (it is also the reason I will never really dump on Ben Watson as that run and hit on Bailey was the highlight of the game and up there with Vinatieri running down and leg tackling Herschel Walker on a kickoff return). Frankly, I have no clue why Romo would choose to throw in Bailey's direction given the likely result. Bailey is older now, but I would prefer not to see his ability tested in this game. Pick on the rest of that secondary.

Have they ever played a worse game than that one since 03? Something like 24 points scored off turnovers.

I guess maybe the Wade Phillips "that was n ass kicking" game was worse.

***KontradictioN*** · 10-07-2009, 09:56 PM

Bailey is still good, but he's not 2004-2005 good. In last season's game with the Broncos, he was getting burned routinely by Randy Moss before he got injured. The only difference in that game was that Matt Cassel was the quarterback. This time, he'll have to contend with a QB that can get the ball to Moss deep if he gets behind Bailey.

Karnage · 10-07-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

Bailey is still good, but he's not 2004-2005 good. In last season's game with the Broncos, he was getting burned routinely by Randy Moss before he got injured. The only difference in that game was that Matt Cassel was the quarterback. This time, he'll have to contend with a QB that can get the ball to Moss deep if he gets behind Bailey.

I disagree...the pats were up...and going to win no doubt...with all the turnovers and the defense as a whole was terrible...but Moss was doing next to nothing while Bailey was in the game...he had something like 1 catch for 14 yards or something....then Bailey left the game with an injury and Moss got in on the action....he was eating Dre Bly alive not Champ...and the Pats offense is patient....why would they challenge when you have Wes Welker to create mismatches all over the field with...I think the matchup to watch is the Denver pass rush vs the Pats O-line....if Denver can't force Brady to move or get in his face quickly...Welker or the RB's will find space all day long

BionicPatriot · 10-08-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

Bailey is still good, but he's not 2004-2005 good. In last season's game with the Broncos, he was getting burned routinely by Randy Moss before he got injured. The only difference in that game was that Matt Cassel was the quarterback. This time, he'll have to contend with a QB that can get the ball to Moss deep if he gets behind Bailey.

The Broncos defense sucked last year. I think people lose sight of DBs, they often blame them when it's in fact the pass rusher in front of them fault. Bailey can only do as much as the pass rush helps. He's great, but he's not covering Moss for over 5 seconds. The Denver defense is all about getting after the QB, so it's going to be interesting to see how they throw that off. I doubt Brady will even have the time to challenge bailey

BionicPatriot · 10-08-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Karnage

I disagree...the pats were up...and going to win no doubt...with all the turnovers and the defense as a whole was terrible...but Moss was doing next to nothing while Bailey was in the game...he had something like 1 catch for 14 yards or something....then Bailey left the game with an injury and Moss got in on the action....he was eating Dre Bly alive not Champ...and the Pats offense is patient....why would they challenge when you have Wes Welker to create mismatches all over the field with...I think the matchup to watch is the Denver pass rush vs the Pats O-line....if Denver can't force Brady to move or get in his face quickly...Welker or the RB's will find space all day long

This is, w/out question, Welker's week. I don't see Brady having more than 3 seconds consistently in the pocket all day.