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Baltimorefan06 · 10-04-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by juny

Anyway, all this talk of penalties is pointless considering Clayton has brick hands.

I agree; if Clayton had caught that ball, we most likely would have won, so the officiating was meaningless in the end.

livinginthe past · 10-04-2009, 05:26 PM

Agreed - the Ravens fans have been a solid bunch - maybe they'll get to visit again during the playoffs!

Not sure I understand the dispute about the Suggs call..the dude practically went for Brady's knees - which is the exact reason this rule was brought in.

Surely you dont actually expect the rule to be only enforced if they guy lays a shoulder/helmet on the QB's knee?

No, the rule is designed to prevent this type of play.

Flacco is for real...Rice is so damn annoying (yeah thats a compliment) but the Ravens discipline let them down - they kept quite a few drives going with poor penalties.

Good game al in all.

Another win, now lets all pull for a Jets loss.

***Ghost of Ben Dreith*** · 10-04-2009, 05:31 PM

They reported that Galloway was a healthy scratch today.......Clayton's hands on that last play looked a lot like Galloway's......hmmmmm

makes you wonder a bit though.....God knows that Galloway probably knows the Raven offense as well as he knows the Pats...

eagle eye · 10-04-2009, 05:35 PM

Two top teams and I won't be surprised if we meet again this season.

I just want to add that its nice to read posts and converse with genuine intelligent fans from other teams. That was certainly the case with the Baltimore fans that came on here, credit where its due.

patsox23 · 10-04-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Baltimorefan06

The two roughing the passers were pretty ridiculous in my mind.

The first was just a bit ticky-tacky, but the PF on Suggs was absurd. The referees were basically judging Terrell's intent as he never actually touched the quarterback, and, without trying to sound bitter, if it hadn't been Tom Brady, the superstar quarterback who had previously suffered a knee injury, I'm not sure the flag would have been thrown.

I felt both were obvious penalties by the letter of the rule, but that both - as well as the RTP against our guy, Wright - are stupid rules.

***PATSNUTme*** · 10-04-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baltimorefan06

Fixed.

I appreciate the sentiment in your post, as I'm sure most other Ravens fans will.

I think that the officiating was pretty absurdly tilted in favor of New England, but we still had the opportunity to win the game with under 30 seconds left, so I'm not going to say that the calls were what ultimately decided the game.

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Great game, and I'm confident that we'll either see you, or Indianapolis again.

Come on! Wright got called for the same roughing call on a sack on Flacco. Moss got called for a O pass int.

One of the penalties was on your coach, he should know better. Blaming about the ref's looks like whining.

It was a good football game and both teams played well. The Ravens had a chance to win at the end and didn't- that's it and that's all.

upstater1 · 10-04-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Baltimorefan06

The two roughing the passers were pretty ridiculous in my mind.

The first was just a bit ticky-tacky, but the PF on Suggs was absurd. The referees were basically judging Terrell's intent as he never actually touched the quarterback, and, without trying to sound bitter, if it hadn't been Tom Brady, the superstar quarterback who had previously suffered a knee injury, I'm not sure the flag would have been thrown.

Well, Mike Wright got the same penalty for hand to the helmet, so you can't complain.

Before this year, in the past, Wilfork not only had the same penalty called on him, but he was fined a ton. He fell into the QB and hit his legs.

Now there's a new rule that you can't go low on the QB. That's a legit call according to the new rules.

On the spot, I didn't think he made the first down at first, but on the instant replay it looked like his feet were still in bounds when he reached forward. He definitely got way past the 1st down marker with the reach.

The question is, where did the ball go out of bound when he reached forward? If you expect the refs to make a great call there, the booth guys too, you're not going to get it. It's going to be placed where the ref on the field called it, and he called a first down originally.

The Patriots have been on the bad end of such a spot in the playoffs, when Ben Watson knocked the ball out of Champ Bailey's hands on an interception return. There was no definite way to determine where the ball crossed the plane of the sideline. That play determined the game. Belichick has complained that they could easily place sensors on the end zone and sidelines to tell them exactly where the ball goes out. The NFL has not responded, and the camera angles were not good enough to tell you.

Pats726 · 10-04-2009, 05:49 PM

Maybe the Ravens fans have more class than the Ravens team..As for Mr Suggs..I think THAT was a dirty play period..He will be fined heavily and if Goodell had any stones, suspended..and as for THUG Lewis who went off in the locker room..your team is a bunch of whiny losers...and that starts with coach Harbough..he should have been penalized a few more times with his contiual yapping at the officials ON the field. Sorry...the fans might be classy and from what I have seen heard they are, but I will not say for the team at all. A soild team no doubt, but...what a bunch of losers... Sorry...I wish I could say good things, but when I see a player go for the knees..what is that?? Maybe if a player was tossed for fdoing that it would stop. Defending him?? What I think is hypocrite..for if a Patriot player went at Flacco's knees..you'd be jumping up and down. Players like Suggs WHO do that need to have a message sent to them.. and if that means being tossed..so be it. As for whiner Lewis..be thankful your behind is not in jail...Sorry that I couldn't be kumbayahh here..but I call them as I see em...

***KontradictioN*** · 10-04-2009, 05:49 PM

The first PI call against Baltimore that extended our drive was flat out ridiculous. You can argue about the rules all you want, but it was ridiculous that that was called. If you're going to call roughing on something like that, you might as well just put a pink skirt on the QB.

upstater1 · 10-04-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baltimorefan06

Right, I called the first roughing the passer "ticky-tacky" because although it was the "correct" call, it was pretty much incidental contact with the player lunging at Brady as he was throwing.

The second personal foul on Suggs, however, shouldn't have been called because he never actually touched Brady, period.

Mason was called for a ridiculous pushoff, and Carr was called for holding on Welker, and neither of those calls were really even close to being correct.

My opinion on the officiating isn't going to mean much on this board as I clearly bring in a bias, but I'm honestly be as objective as possible when I say that this was a horribly officiated game.

Flacco's called personal foul was the most blatant of the three, but I agree, his hit was also iffy as the fingers barely grazed his face.

They called the same pushoff on Moss that they called on Mason!!