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Old 09-12-2009, 03:52 PM   #1
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When we play 2 gap, 4-3, who sets the edge? In the 3-4 its the OLB. Is it the same in the 4-3?
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #2
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When we play 2 gap, 4-3, who sets the edge? In the 3-4 its the OLB. Is it the same in the 4-3?
The DE in a sense, because he's going to be out over the OT/TE. But the point in a 4-3 is to free the LBs to make the plays, moreso than setting an edge and having inside guys eat up the run. Instead, you use more men on the DL to free the LBs and allow them to get outside to make the play.
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The DE in a sense, because he's going to be out over the OT/TE. But the point in a 4-3 is to free the LBs to make the plays, moreso than setting an edge and having inside guys eat up the run. Instead, you use more men on the DL to free the LBs and allow them to get outside to make the play.
Makes sense, Guyton had some problems setting the edge with the OLB experiment last year. But with the DE over the OT/TE, I see Guyton making plays.
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Its the OLB. The DE is lined up over the T in either 34 or 43.
They are responsible for the gap on either side.
"Setting the edge" means being the player responsible for the gap that extends to the sideline.
That is the OLB who has the gap on either side of the TE on the strong side, and either side of 'whoever shows' ie a pulling G or FB on the weakside.
An important aspect to watch for:
When our D is working optimally, and run designed to go T or out, including the stretch play, you will see the RB continue laterally all the way to the sideline as 2 players are in position to defend any gap he could chose. Ultimately he is run to the sidelines and the S and corner is up in run support and there is no or little gain, or even a loss from a RB who ust wont turn it upfield.
When its not working so well, the back is heading upfield before the numbers.
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Makes sense, Guyton had some problems setting the edge with the OLB experiment last year. But with the DE over the OT/TE, I see Guyton making plays.
But the DE is lined up on the T. The OLB is lined up on the TE and has edge responsibilities.
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The DE in a sense, because he's going to be out over the OT/TE. But the point in a 4-3 is to free the LBs to make the plays, moreso than setting an edge and having inside guys eat up the run. Instead, you use more men on the DL to free the LBs and allow them to get outside to make the play.
And this plays to Mayo and Guyton's strength, in speed and open field tackling, with AD in sam (frequent blitzing)?
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And this plays to Mayo and Guyton's strength, in speed and open field tackling, with AD in sam (frequent blitzing)?
This is part of the misconception. Whether we align as a 34 or 43 the LBs have 2 gap responsiblity. When the play flows away, their responsibility is to step up into the cutback area.
Lbs 'free to chase' is a function of a one gap system.
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This is part of the misconception. Whether we align as a 34 or 43 the LBs have 2 gap responsiblity. When the play flows away, their responsibility is to step up into the cutback area.
Lbs 'free to chase' is a function of a one gap system.
But with more DL to tie up the OL, Mayo will be protected more? No?
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But the DE is lined up on the T. The OLB is lined up on the TE and has edge responsibilities.
Strong side yes, weak side no. MLB also does not have to take on guards like in the 3-4.
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Its the OLB. The DE is lined up over the T in either 34 or 43.
They are responsible for the gap on either side.
"Setting the edge" means being the player responsible for the gap that extends to the sideline.
That is the OLB who has the gap on either side of the TE on the strong side, and either side of 'whoever shows' ie a pulling G or FB on the weakside.
An important aspect to watch for:
When our D is working optimally, and run designed to go T or out, including the stretch play, you will see the RB continue laterally all the way to the sideline as 2 players are in position to defend any gap he could chose. Ultimately he is run to the sidelines and the S and corner is up in run support and there is no or little gain, or even a loss from a RB who ust wont turn it upfield.
When its not working so well, the back is heading upfield before the numbers.
In the 2 GAP, the DE has the responsibility for the C/D gaps.. The D gap is outside the Tight End.
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