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Old 08-25-2009, 10:54 AM   #41
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Probably a dumb question,but why the "dirty"label for Sanchez?
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:02 AM   #42
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Jon Gruden was fawning over Sanchez as the game was winding down saying that Sanchez had made "great strides". Jaws immediately questioned that pointing out the interception, the pass that should have been intercepted as well as something else I've since forgotten. Gruden held his ground, but it's clear he hadn't convinced Jaws (or me for that matter).

It seems to me that suiting up and playing was what it took to make "great strides". I'd hate to see what "a step back" would have meant.
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Probably a dumb question,but why the "dirty"label for Sanchez?
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Sanchez has more ceiling than Clemens, but probably not much more. Sanchez from initial glance reminds me of another David Carr. He lacks the height I think to scan the field quickly and see above defensive lines. He's got toughness and swagger that could make him a favorite personality figure in NY. From a football standpoint, nothing in his gm really stands out. His arm is below average, he is somewhat undersized for the position, he does have some scrambling ability, and he has alot to learn with the playbook. Sanchez lacks the natural calmness I have seen with last year's rookie class such as Flacco and Matt Ryan. Heck even Matt Leinart looked more comfortable in the pocket.
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I thought Flacco looked fantastic against the Jets. Ravens could be scary this year.
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Sanchez has more ceiling than Clemens, but probably not much more. Sanchez from initial glance reminds me of another David Carr. He lacks the height I think to scan the field quickly and see above defensive lines. He's got toughness and swagger that could make him a favorite personality figure in NY. From a football standpoint, nothing in his gm really stands out. His arm is below average, he is somewhat undersized for the position, he does have some scrambling ability, and he has alot to learn with the playbook. Sanchez lacks the natural calmness I have seen with last year's rookie class such as Flacco and Matt Ryan. Heck even Matt Leinart looked more comfortable in the pocket.
I can't agree with some of this. I actually think that Sanchez may end up being as good, or even better, than Palmer.

His arm is not even remotely below average. The kid can throw damn well and accurate actually. His height is not the ideal, but at 6'2" he is plenty tall enough- hell, I can probably name a dozen hall of fame QB's with the same or less height....and most of those not as mobile as Sanchez.

This guy should be prepping for his senior year right now, instead he is under the lights on national TV in Baltimore going up against what looked like a damn good defense. Take any quarterback in the league from their second start and put them in the situation Sanchez faced last night and they likely would have done worse. The Ravens D looked fast and confusing!

I agree he looked overwhelmed in his first drives, but it appeared the coach got him calmed down and he seemed more settled after.

No way of knowing how this kid will pan out. Personally, I think the Jet's may very well screw this kid up with too many pressures right now.....but I truly believe this kid has extreme potential and upside.
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I can't agree with some of this. I actually think that Sanchez may end up being as good, or even better, than Palmer.

His arm is not even remotely below average. The kid can throw damn well and accurate actually. His height is not the ideal, but at 6'2" he is plenty tall enough- hell, I can probably name a dozen hall of fame QB's with the same or less height....and most of those not as mobile as Sanchez.

This guy should be prepping for his senior year right now, instead he is under the lights on national TV in Baltimore going up against what looked like a damn good defense. Take any quarterback in the league from their second start and put them in the situation Sanchez faced last night and they likely would have done worse. The Ravens D looked fast and confusing!

I agree he looked overwhelmed in his first drives, but it appeared the coach got him calmed down and he seemed more settled after.

No way of knowing how this kid will pan out. Personally, I think the Jet's may very well screw this kid up with too many pressures right now.....but I truly believe this kid has extreme potential and upside.

I agree with most of this, of hardly any of the post you quoted. I think Sanchez will (unfortunately) be a very good QB, possibly great. All he needs is time. I think the Jets will give him the time, and by seasons end he should be a fine QB. That Baltimore D is tough on grizzled vets, let alone a rookie in his second game. heck, they threw 8 players at him on one blitz. I think he will struggle like Cassel did early on, and then get comfortable leading an NFL offense. That's just my 2 cents, I think most of us Pats fans downplay other teams prospects, especially teams in our division. I remember some of us mocking Miami for Tedd Ginn, and Pittsburgh for Santonio Holmes, and I think both are well on their way to becoming stars.

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I felt it was probably the best pre season game I have ever seen, although I have probably only watched 25 pre season games start to finish.

The Ravens were bringing it and I thought the ravens looked much more polished then the Jets, especially there O.

I liked a lot of what I saw the Jets D doing, although I am once again disappointed in there pass coverage.

I am not surprised or concerned about Sanchez's play, I was glad to see him face a first rate D and take his lumps, it has to be a tremendous learning experience for him. I felt his receivers could of helped him a bit more. I was happy that he was able to recognize the broken coverage on Leon's TD catch and was able to make the play.

The Jets run game looked good. Leon Washington is remarkable.

Keller seems to have improved on his blocking skills.

Was just a truly enjoyable pre season match up.
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