CrazyDave

I think you are right.
Come to think of it, he specifically said just that, did he not?

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Vince Wilfork: A Force Of Nature

karran_s

Wilfork is essential for this team.. BB knows that and will keep him. If it comes down to a choice between Seymour and Vince, the choice is easy and a no-brainer. Vince - hands down over RS.

Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

yeah, he is the main guy on defense.

He could be replaced if he demands too much... but, he should be seriously extended.

JoeSixPat

The Patriots need to wait until after they've removed the $15 million that Cassel's going to require for the franchise tag before making this move.

They have the "luxury" of waiting and logically will take that approach to use their available cap space for moves in free agency.

PATSYLICIOUS

That's how I thought it would work out. In fact, the Patriots could actually clear up additional space for THIS coming season by extending him and that's the latest that Cassel's cap figure would be on our hands. I'd actually be pretty shocked if Vince is allowed to hit FA, unless they had an understanding like they appeared to have with Moss.

JoeSixPat

Isn't Wilfork coming off his rookie contract? I don't think you're going to get too much lower than that.

Wilfork's cap hit for this season is just over $2 million.

I know we're comparing different players at different positions, but two years ago Adalius Thomas' contract had him generated a $3 million cap hit for 2007.

And many feel that Thomas was underpaid two years ago. Aren't we talking Richard Seymour 2006 extension type money here?

If someone wants to hypothesize how much Wilfork will re-sign for and how that's going to bring his cap hit UNDER $2 million for this season, consider me VERY interested in that.

PATSYLICIOUS

Yeah I didn't realize he was still on his first contract, seems like he's been around way longer. They could still extend him and get away with a similar hit to 2 mill for this season though I'd imagine.

Miguel

I am presuming that when Wilfork reached his escalators for the 2008 season that increased his 2008 salary by $700,000 they also increased his 2009 salary by at least the same amount. Please note that there is a very good chance that they increased his 2009 salary by more.

I will try to make that clear on my cap page.

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JoeSixPat

Assuming that's the case I can't see any way to slice that up so his 2009 cap figure is actually UNDER what he's getting right now - i.e. less than $2 million.

Even if only $20 million is guranteed that's $3 million plus in signing bonus alone.

Still, it's not that they COULDN'T extend him while Cassel's on the books at $15 million - its just that they WOULDN'T. There's no added benefit that I can see to signing Wilfork at a time when that extra cap space would be better spent on their Free Agent targets.

mgteich

That kind of comment means very little. Samuel said the same. I DO believe Wilfork. However, he will be one of the 2-3 highest paid DL playing for someone. The question is whether we will come up with the money. We have little problem doing that when the name of the player is Moss.