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Old 01-22-2013, 05:55 PM   #121
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Learn the offense? I thought it was the clear the patriots are slowly transitioning back to run first 3 wide receiver set.


Jennings and wallace would be great in the play action passing game.
Thats why they signed 2 TEs for 8 years?
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:01 PM   #122
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Thats why they signed 2 TEs for 8 years?
Gronk and hernandez are superior versions of Benjamin watson, graham and Fauria.
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Gronk and hernandez are superior versions of Benjamin watson, graham and Fauria.
Not at that cost they aren't.

Not with the talent that they have, and the personnel problems they impose on defenses. What NE did was set up a blueprint around the NFL for other teams to try and match.

Let's remember that no one had more TD's in the NFL than Gronk over the last 2 1/2 seasons before he went out. This offense is set to exploit the matchup problems that he causes in both the run/pass game.

I think this current and future offense are tailored around what those 2 TE's do in many aspects. They are far different from Fauria, Graham, and even Watson (in my opinion).
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Learn the offense? I thought it was the clear the patriots are slowly transitioning back to run first 3 wide receiver set.

Is there some kind of proof of this that I am simply not seeing?

"Run first" with Tom Brady? To me, "run first" means...well, run first.

I have not seen anything like that to this point. I see more of a balanced attack, which is needed, but no stats at all that point to a run first attack.

3 WR?? On the majority of the plays? Are you counting Hernandez as a WR here?

I saw a lot of 2/2/1 sets this season, and I think that's what we see moving forward.
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Presently playing in Arizona for a team going nowhere. Bet he'd like a ring.
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Is there some kind of proof of this that I am simply not seeing?

"Run first" with Tom Brady? To me, "run first" means...well, run first.

I have not seen anything like that to this point. I see more of a balanced attack, which is needed, but no stats at all that point to a run first attack.

3 WR?? On the majority of the plays? Are you counting Hernandez as a WR here?

I saw a lot of 2/2/1 sets this season, and I think that's what we see moving forward.
Are you counting Hernandez as a WR here? yes
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Presently playing in Arizona for a team going nowhere. Bet he'd like a ring.
I'd like to hope he'd take a small paycut if the Patriots traded for Fitzgerald. If any of the top WRs would, I think it would be Fitz.
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Is there some kind of proof of this that I am simply not seeing?

"Run first" with Tom Brady? To me, "run first" means...well, run first.

I have not seen anything like that to this point. I see more of a balanced attack, which is needed, but no stats at all that point to a run first attack.

3 WR?? On the majority of the plays? Are you counting Hernandez as a WR here?

I saw a lot of 2/2/1 sets this season, and I think that's what we see moving forward.

Patriots running the ball 25+ times and throwing it less is what i was talking about.
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Presently playing in Arizona for a team going nowhere. Bet he'd like a ring.
Fitzgerald would be the PERFECT fit here in NE. Big, strong, fast, unbelievable hands, good character guy. Perfect.

Except that he's under contract through 2018 for $17 million a year. So in order for the Pats to get him,

(a) They'd have to give up a TON to trade for him, and

(b) they'd have to cut a bunch of guys to fit him under the cap.

UNLESS they let Welker go. And even then, we're still talking about an increase in salary by about $8 million.

But what about a sign-and-trade? Welker + a 2nd round pick in 2013 and a 2nd in 2014 for Fitzgerald?

The Pats then have Fitzgerald and Lloyd on the outside, use Edelman in the slot, Gronk/Hernandez/Ballard from the TE position, and Vereen/Woodhead/Demps out of the backfield.

I'd rather have Fitzgerald, Lloyd, and Edelman than Welker, Lloyd, and Branch. By, like a mile.
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Learn the offense? I thought it was the clear the patriots are slowly transitioning back to run first 3 wide receiver set.
So you don't have to learn the O then and know TBs tendency? not every WR can come in here and get it....aka ocho stinko
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