PATRIOTS NEWS Official 2024 Free Agency Thread - Day 2

Love The Drake · Mar 12, 2024

crownontherocks said:

Pay more Kraft.

Really starting to hate Jacksonville.

TommyD4207 · Mar 12, 2024

BUSTAMOVE said:
If I'm Wolf
I say you have 24 hours and we are moving on
In 24 hours.....MOVE ON
Then in future, Agents and Players know you don't bluff

Then he'll tell him to go screw and go back to Jacksonville.
You have to remember, this isn't exactly a prime destination anymore.

The Gr8est · Mar 12, 2024

TommyD4207 said:
Same. Makes you wonder if the source is actually just Calvin Ridley saying they need to come with a huge bag. And even if somehow they do pony up, do you really want him if he actually wanted to be somewhere else? Yeah, he'll probably get over it, but are you getting 90% effort for the next 3-4 years?

Getting Trent Brown vibes.

I hope the Pats look elsewhere.

Rob0729 · Mar 12, 2024

mike_usagisan said:

I don't know why people want Justin Fields. He isn't good. He shows brief flashes, but that is about it.

PatsFan2 · Mar 12, 2024

venecol said:
I think $17M for Williams is below market. I would do that pronto.

What's the market on Ridley (29)? $22M aav?

I'd rather trade for Williams w/ a 4th Rd pick.

ven Ridley is better and younger trust me and I like Williams too.

mike_usagisan · Mar 12, 2024

Rob0729 said:
I don't know why people want Justin Fields. He isn't good. He shows brief flashes, but that is about it.

Especially when no one is going to pick up his option to be a backup. So it's a one-year rental.

upstater1 · Mar 12, 2024

Give Kraft A Hand said:
Can't blame him to be honest. State taxes, better offense, better QB, and closer to winning

The state tax thing is a little overblown.

The difference between Florida and Mass on a $15m contract is $625k a year (1/2 is taxed in Mass., so $6.5m x .09, $1m x .05 - $10k in state tax deduction).

The Patriots simply need to beat Jax by $625k to negate the tax differences between the 2 states.

Ross12 · Mar 12, 2024

venecol said:
I think $17M for Williams is below market. I would do that pronto.

What's the market on Ridley (29)? $22M aav?

I'd rather trade for Williams w/ a 4th Rd pick.

Only 1 year though and he's coming back from an ACL injury. He may not be his full self until a little bit of the way into the season. Ideally you would extend him but then you would need to pay market rate for future years.

I would do a day 3 pick though as long as he will sign an extension.

Steve102 · Mar 12, 2024

BUSTAMOVE said:
If I'm Wolf
I say you have 24 hours and we are moving on
In 24 hours.....MOVE ON
Then in future, Agents and Players know you don't bluff
Personally I don't like the DIVA

I'd move on now. Gonna leak crap to the press that your player prefers Jax... call their bluff.

PatsFan2 · Mar 12, 2024

Rob0729 said:
I don't know why people want Justin Fields. He isn't good. He shows brief flashes, but that is about it.

I'm on a Island but I think AVP and our new Coaching Staff could fix Fields.

Mcp1982 · Mar 12, 2024

jmt57 said:
Looking at some of the Chargers' potential cap casualties/possible trade bait, current cap #, annual contracts, and age (in 2024).
LAC is currently $26 million over the cap, and needs to fix that by tomorrow.

In regards to @DW Toys suggestion of a trade: I think that would make sense for a team that is already a playoff contender - but much less so for a team that is rebuilding. My concern woul be that they are here for only a year or two, then leave in free agency. That's an acceptable trade-off for a contender; less so for a rebuilding team.

Now if you want to try and sign one of these players after they are released, without having to trade awat draft capital - that's a different consideration.

Khalil Mack - Edge - 33
Cap#: $38,517,500
2024: $17,550,000
2025: Free Agent

Joey Bosa - Edge - 29
Cap#: $36,611,666
2024: $15,000,000
2025: $17,000,000
2026: Free Agent

Keenan Allen - WR - 32
Cap#: $34,717,500
2024: $18,100,000
2025: Free Agent

Mike Williams - WR - 30
Cap#: $32,460,000
2024: $17,000,000
2025: Free Agent

Derwin James - SS - 28
Cap#: $19,856,494
2024: $12,750,000
2025: $13,750,000
2026: $14,500,000

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Another situation like Wilson where we should offer to take a contract or two and a 3rd for a 2nd. Uses our cap space while adding an extra pick theoretically while adding some talent and leadership for a year or two, even if overpriced

Love The Drake · Mar 12, 2024

PatsFan2 said:
I'm on an Island but I think AVP and our new Coaching Staff could fix Fields.

I don’t think they believe so.
I don’t think Jacoby came to be a backup.
And he is the perfect Bridge QB and he’s a great teammate and captain.

Lagaffe_07 · Mar 12, 2024

Bourne Again Christian said:
I don’t think they believe so.
I don’t think Jacoby came to be a backup.
And he is the perfect Bridge QB and he’s a great teammate and captain.

Brissett is gonna be a backup just not a back up to Fields

Sciz · Mar 12, 2024

Ha, of course Ridley is also represented by David Mulugheta. He’s really good at getting his guys top dollar, but you have to accept that he’s going to do a ton of posturing via leaks.

PatsFan2 · Mar 12, 2024

BUSTAMOVE said:
If I'm Wolf
I say you have 24 hours and we are moving on
In 24 hours.....MOVE ON
Then in future, Agents and Players know you don't bluff
Personally I don't like the DIVA

Jax's thinking about that Second they could get another WR in this Strong WR Draft they already have C Kirk.

mike_usagisan · Mar 12, 2024

Steve102 said:
I'd move on now. Gonna leak crap to the press that your player prefers Jax... call their bluff.

To me this is just the business side of football, and Ridley's agents are probably doing all the leaks/negotiations.

BUSTAMOVE · Mar 12, 2024

mike_usagisan said:
His competition is going to be the rookie, I think.

No doubt
If the rookie beats him out.
Brissett is the type of guy that would support him instead of a divided QB room

Steve102 · Mar 12, 2024

mike_usagisan said:
To me this is just the business side of football, and Ridley's agents are probably doing all the leaks/negotiations.

It feels like if they player wanted to stay in Jax, he'd take what they are offering and stay. My guess is they aren't offering anywhere close... or... The Pats are the only ones talking. Either way, it's a red flag to me, on a player with lots of them.

mike_usagisan · Mar 12, 2024

Ross12 · Mar 12, 2024

I did do some research and found that Jacksonville actually gets to keep the comp as a 3rd round pick for Ridley if they wait until after 4PM tomorrow to sign him. At that point it's no longer considered an "extension" so the compensation doesn't escalate.

So Ridley using Jacksonville as leverage doesn't make a lot of sense - they're not going to do anything with him until tomorrow.

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