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I Iike Robinson or Welker on that list.

I want to get away from the Erhardt Perkins offense. I hope they hire an OC with a different offensive system.

Water Boy said:

I want to get away from the Erhardt Perkins offense. I hope they hire an OC with a different offensive system.

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Why?

Players make the system. Not the other way around.

*ChungFu* said:

I find this a little odd. I do support being able to retain your own talent, but doesn't blocking a minority coach from a promotion seem at odds with the program?

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It's a lateral move

Arthur Smith would be a solid hire for OC for the Patriots. Needs big money though. Pay up.

Water Boy said:

I want to get away from the Erhardt Perkins offense. I hope they hire an OC with a different offensive system.

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I understand where you're coming from but part of the problem is that we went with a defensive head coach. They have to make the decision on a system and try to keep it. Odds are you bring in an OC who is successful, you have 2 years at most before they jet off for a promotion with someone else leaving your young qb learning a new offense. It isn't exactly ideal. I think they need to decide what offensive system they want to run first then target the coaches to match that system.

upstater1 said:

Arthur Smith would be a solid hire for OC for the Patriots. Needs big money though. Pay up.

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He’s still getting paid by the Falcons, so pay shouldn’t be a factor for a few years. He’s also one of the heirs to the FedEx fortune, so maybe it never really mattered at all.

Forget the top candidates. Why would anyone want the Pats OC job? The team has no talent on O, the owner wants to play GM & they just promoted their LB coach, with little coaching experience, to HC without so much as interviewing another candidate.

This franchise is a total & complete train wreck. Mayo is going to have great difficulty filing out his staff. John Henry Kraft should just sell the team if he wants to just run it into the ground.

Sciz said:

He’s still getting paid by the Falcons, so pay shouldn’t be a factor for a few years. He’s also one of the heirs to the FedEx fortune, so maybe it never really mattered at all.

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That’s interesting. I kind of respect the guy’s work ethic in a different way now knowing he was already a made man.

sportnik said:

Forget the top candidates. Why would anyone want the Pats OC job? The team has no talent on O, the owner wants to play GM & they just promoted their LB coach, with little coaching experience, to HC without so much as interviewing another candidate.

This franchise is a total & complete train wreck. Mayo is going to have great difficulty filing out his staff. John Henry Kraft should just sell the team if he wants to just run it into the ground.

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Damn, that's dark.

sportnik said:

Forget the top candidates. Why would anyone want the Pats OC job? The team has no talent on O, the owner wants to play GM & they just promoted their LB coach, with little coaching experience, to HC without so much as interviewing another candidate.

This franchise is a total & complete train wreck. Mayo is going to have great difficulty filing out his staff. John Henry Kraft should just sell the team if he wants to just run it into the ground.

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Who has the Kraft drafted or signed since firing BB?

archstanton543 said:

Who has the Kraft drafted or signed since firing BB?

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What GM on any team has drafted or signed a player since last Thursday (when BB was fired)?

One-If-By-Sea said:

What GM on any team has drafted or signed a player since last Thursday (when BB was fired)?

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Exactly. Hard to play GM when he hasn't done any GM things.

archstanton543 said:

Who has the Kraft drafted or signed since firing BB?

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Nobody. See, he’s already underperforming!

sportnik said:

Forget the top candidates. Why would anyone want the Pats OC job? The team has no talent on O, the owner wants to play GM & they just promoted their LB coach, with little coaching experience, to HC without so much as interviewing another candidate.

This franchise is a total & complete train wreck. Mayo is going to have great difficulty filing out his staff. John Henry Kraft should just sell the team if he wants to just run it into the ground.

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Yeah, wouldn’t want to risk doing too good of a job and getting offered $50M guaranteed to be a head coach as a result. That would be awful.

archstanton543 said:

Exactly. Hard to play GM when he hasn't done any GM things.

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But that is unrelated to whether RK wants to make the major GM decisions for the Patriots going forward. You highlighted the poster's phrase "the owner wants to play GM". Not doing GM things for two business day since BB was fired indicates nothing about whether RK wants to play GM or not. Two days have passed and you are saying, "See, I told you so". Too funny.

What is your point? Can you explain any logic? Or are you trying to be a contrarian for the sake of it as always?

One-If-By-Sea said:

But that is unrelated to whether RK wants to make the major GM decisions for the Patriots going forward. You highlighted the poster's phrase "the owner wants to play GM". Not doing GM things for two business day since BB was fired indicates nothing about whether RK wants to play GM or not. Two days have passed and you are saying, "See, I told you so". Too funny.

What is your point? Can you explain any logic? Or are you trying to be a contrarian for the sake of it as always?

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You have no proof that he wants to take over "major GM decisions" (way to be vague, as always).

archstanton543 said:

Who has the Kraft drafted or signed since firing BB?

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archstanton543 said:

Exactly. Hard to play GM when he hasn't done any GM things.

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Since you have changed the subect, it appears as though you are conceeding that the above posts were silly and your contrarian schtick is getting old.

archstanton543 said:

You have no proof that he wants to take over "major GM decisions" (way to be vague, as always).

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If RK does not appoint a GM, he is saying that he will be the shadow GM. At any business, if there is not a president or CEO appointed, the employees have to go back to the owner for the major decisions. That is not being vague, it is how any private business in America works. If the ownership of the Patriots, Robert or Jonathan, do not appoint a GM then the personnel director or director of scouting will have to get final approval from RK or JK before any major signings or draft picks. That means the Kraft ownership is by default the shadow GM. It is how every private business in America works.

One-If-By-Sea said:

Since you have changed the subect, it appears as though you are conceeding that the above posts were silly and your contrarian schtick is getting old.



If RK does not appoint a GM, he is saying that he will be the shadow GM. At any business, if there is not a president or CEO appointed, the employees have to go back to the owner for the major decisions. That is not being vague, it is how any private business in America works. If the ownership of the Patriots, Robert or Jonathan, do not appoint a GM then the personnel director or director of scouting will have to get final approval from RK or JK before any major signings or draft picks. That means the Kraft ownership is by default the shadow GM. It is how every private business in America works.

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So, you're making massive assumptions. Got it.

Pape said:

Rookie HC with a defensive background & a first time signal caller on Offense? Given the state of our QB room and the likelihood of having to develop a rookie QB, it's not a move I'd have a lot of confidence in...

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It's time for the Patriots to get back to....well.. being the Patriots. Instead of copying what others are doing we need to reset the standard thet we've held for so long wich others copied us on.

That's having quality coaches, players and brain trust. The winning cured alot of ills and the loosing exposed things.

If we can get back to winning and putting quality play back on the field then we could be back into a contender.