OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

luuked · Sep 15, 2020

rochrist said:
Huh? He got to NINE SBs and won SIX titles.

I said since Brady became Brady. The other 3 titles were before that:

From my point of view since Brady turned into Brady he almost always had a supporting cast that was good enough to get into the top 5 offense in the league. He also got to 6 SBs and won 3 titles.

Disagree with it if you feel different but 2007+ is the timeframe I was talking about.

luuked · Sep 15, 2020

upstater1 said:
Why am I wrong for concluding that the WRs Brady did not trust were really untrustworthy?

Honestly, i don't care enough about Brady or this discussion to continue this on. If after all the reporting on him and his circle of trust issues your conclusion is that he was right to be like that then good for you. I am not sure what bigger point this leads to but again.. I really don't care enough about this topic.

You win.

PatsBoy12 · Sep 15, 2020

upstater1 · Sep 15, 2020

luuked said:
Honestly, i don't care enough about Brady or this discussion to continue this on. If after all the reporting on him and his circle of trust issues your conclusion is that he was right to be like that then good for you. I am not sure what bigger point this leads to but again.. I really don't care enough about this topic.

You win.

Unreal.

PatsFanInVa · Sep 15, 2020

We've moved on. Brady had a losing first outing. These are the knowns. Way to little to go on, in the world's weirdest season.

Hey Tommy, you lovin' those Tampa Bay fans? HA-HA.

SHOWTIME15 · Sep 15, 2020

So fellas, are you guys on to Carolina?

sb1 · Sep 15, 2020

Favre surprised to hear Arians call out Brady

Brett Favre took issue with Bucs coach Bruce Arians' postgame comments about Tom Brady that Favre perceived to be critical, saying Tuesday on his radio show, "I think the last person you want to call out after the first game of the year is Tom Brady."

www.espn.com

Arians also called out Gronk for his conditioning? That’s news to me. That 4th round pick we got back looks like a steal now.

PF_SU · Sep 16, 2020

sb1 said:
Favre surprised to hear Arians call out Brady

Brett Favre took issue with Bucs coach Bruce Arians' postgame comments about Tom Brady that Favre perceived to be critical, saying Tuesday on his radio show, "I think the last person you want to call out after the first game of the year is Tom Brady."

www.espn.com

Arians also called out Gronk for his conditioning? That’s news to me. That 4th round pick we got back looks like a steal now.

What Favre suggested Arians should have said sounds awfully familiar right?

"Say collectively, 'We've gotta play better, from quarterback to kicker, we've gotta play better, we've gotta coach better. In order to get where we want to go, that's what we're gonna have to do.' And leave it at that."

ViperGTS · Sep 16, 2020

PatsBoy12 said:

Pretty much a Bucs propaganda video. That showed only the good stuff and none of the terrible stuff. In a word,

Worthless.

rochrist · Sep 16, 2020

PF_SU said:
What Favre suggested Arians should have said sounds awfully familiar right?

"Say collectively, 'We've gotta play better, from quarterback to kicker, we've gotta play better, we've gotta coach better. In order to get where we want to go, that's what we're gonna have to do.' And leave it at that."

Gee, who does that sound like?

ViperGTS · Sep 16, 2020

rochrist said:
Gee, who does that sound like?

Some scrub coach that has a scissor fetish involving hoodies?

JayNM · Sep 16, 2020

Bruce Arians wants more passes to Mike Evans

Buccaneers head coach Bruce Arians hasn't been shy about airing his grievances about his team's performance against the Saints in Week One and that continued on his weekly radio show Tuesday.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

I cant deny that Im curious to see how Brady will deal with a coach that is pretty much the complete opposite of what he used to have.

" I never want to come out of a game without 10 targets to Mike, at least.”. Can you imagine BB saying something like this? lol

IMaybe he never realized how much "the sytem" (including BBs interviews and midia preparation) would protect him from distractions and external pressures.

1960Pats · Sep 16, 2020

rochrist said:
Huh? He got to NINE SBs and won SIX titles.

How quick they forget.

1960Pats · Sep 16, 2020

ViperGTS said:
Pretty much a Bucs propaganda video. That showed only the good stuff and none of the terrible stuff. In a word,

Worthless.

Tampa Bay doesn't have much choice but to use propaganda. They're the worst team in the history of the NYFL... by a mile.

PatriotsReign · Sep 16, 2020

I was psyched TB lost their first game. I thought I’d be rooting for them but once I saw they were losing, I started to smile deep down inside

sb1 · Sep 16, 2020

PatsBoy12 said:

Barber called Gronk a "great TE". He isn't a great TE anymore.

PatsFanSince74 · Sep 16, 2020

Bella*chick said:
I sincerely doubt this. I think Brady behind the scenes will be furious to be called out especially if they keep playing in such a sloppy manner in every aspect of the game. The guy was in the New England culture for almost twenty years.

Hmmm.
Bruce Arians' career HC Regular Season W/L record: 56-40-1. Playoff Record 1-2. Last winning season? 2015. If I'm not mistaken, Brady played in three and won two Super Bowls since 2015.
Yep, unless they had some sort of arrangement going into the season, Brady is really going to take that from him..

203Pat · Sep 16, 2020

upstater1 said:
Unreal.

Pathetic really. Say a bunch of things about Brady being an issue for not trusting crappy receivers. Then when the evidence is presented that every crappy receiver he didn't trust did absolutely nothing outside of New England just pull the old "oh well I just don't care" and put your nose in the air is laughable.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Sep 16, 2020

JayNM said:
Bruce Arians wants more passes to Mike Evans

Buccaneers head coach Bruce Arians hasn't been shy about airing his grievances about his team's performance against the Saints in Week One and that continued on his weekly radio show Tuesday.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

I cant deny that Im curious to see how Brady will deal with a coach that is pretty much the complete opposite of what he used to have.

" I never want to come out of a game without 10 targets to Mike, at least.”. Can you imagine BB saying something like this? lol

IMaybe he never realized how much "the sytem" (including BBs interviews and midia preparation) would protect him from distractions and external pressures.

This is why I really hate Arians and think he sucks...well before Brady got there I’ve despised him.

Trying to force targets and game plans regardless of the opponent/scheme is beyond stupid. His teams are often feast or famine from week to week.

PatsBoy12 · Sep 16, 2020

sb1 said:
Barber called Gronk a "great TE". He isn't a great TE anymore.

Agreed. He's not.

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