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If you are like me, you have spent many happy hours over the last 11 days watching the various postmortems of this, the 2nd most surprising, of our Superbowl wins. You have scoured the "rewatch thread". You have watched the "turning point"... at least twice. Listened to the myriad of the "mic'd up" clips And thoroughly enjoyed watching all the clips of those talking heads having to eat crow (once again) and sing the praises of our home team. And, man, it REALLY does never get old, does it? ;)

But it's been over a week and a half now and I thought it might be time for some introspection and list at least some of the things that stuck out to me, and hopefully have some of you add your own things to this list. Some of these things are obvious and have been talked about a bit. Some are less so and deserve more discussion. Either way, I find this a good exercise to flush out the 2018 season so we can get on to the next.

The more I learned about football over the years, the more I fell in love with the game. I got to play it in HS, college, and a few years beyond that. I actually thought I was pretty knowledgeable when I played. However it was only when I started coaching that I learned just how little I actually knew about the game, and when circumstances caused me to leave coaching almost 20 years later, I had to acknowledge just how much MORE there was left to learn. So even after all those years of coaches clinics and long summertime chalkboard sessions with colleagues, I was left with a healthy respect for just how much I DIDN'T know.

One of the reasons I fell in love with this game was the fact that when it was coached well, the sum became greater than the individual parts. On all levels, good coaching really, really matters. We have been so fortunate to watch the results of good coaching for close to 20 years now. So, a discussion of WHY is never redundant. If it was a simple process, everyone would do it, right? And a lot of very smart men don't seem to reach that goal. it is in that vein, I wanted to point out a few observations on things the Pats did in this game that made me proud to be a Pats fan.

a. Watching all the clips this past week, I noticed that there were several good plays that featured players like Danny Shelton, Aaron Claybourn, and Malcolm Brown. It occurred to me that at some point this season all three had been healthy scratches (and in the case of Claybourn and Shelton, more than once). All three had to know that it was likely they wouldn't be with the Pats next season. Yet SOMEHOW, Bill, his staff and the locker room still kept these guys invested and bought in to the point that when their time came, in the season's most important game, all three made key plays. :eek: That doesn't happen anywhere else!

On every other team in the league you would lose that guy. He'd check out mentally and be looking forward to his next team. What a tremendous coaching job. A credit not only to the coaches, but the team leadership and locker room that kept these guys committed are ready play when finally called on.

b. Tom Brady clearly didn't have his best game (until it really mattered), but the effect of his leadership was so evident during this game. Now one of my pet peeves about this game was the notion that the Rams defense was JUST as effective as the Pats was during this game. But the reality was that, while Rams D was very good, the Pats WERE moving the ball at times but were constantly shooting themselves in the foot at key times. But looking at the clips, Brady kept his guys ready, alert and motivated, so when "the moment" came. His offense was ready to execute. And it took BOTH those final 2 drives to cement the win.

One clip in the post game locker room that impressed me was Brady walking up to CPatterson and basically apologizing for some throw he made to him. Patterson isn't "one of his guys". In fact, he could be another of those 'one and done' players. But Brady took the time to seek HIM out to talk to him. He didn't need to do this, but he did. And in that moment we saw WHY these guys would follow him into a fire and not even think about it.

c, I loved how often you saw offensive and defensive players hugging each other. Another sign just how homogeneous this team is. Lots of differing roles, but only ONE team. The concept is simple and the goal is an obvious one, but as we see so often, reaching that goal is VERY difficult when you are dealing with 53+ alpha males and asking each of them to give up something to help achieve a greater goal.

d. . You couldn't help notice that when the camera showed Bill talking to his team he was reinforcing SPECIFIC coaching points to his players. When they panned to McVay, he was always speaking in some kind of positive generalities weren't really helping his players do better. Clearly it was evident that there was a mismatch in coaching going on. Not that it was so evident in the x's and o's, but in just HOW they each communicated to their respective teams. That being said, I think this says less about any flaw in McVay's game other than experience, and more about an insight in how Bill gets HIS team to focus on the task at hand. McVay, who is Edelman's age, is a student of the game and will likely learn a lot from this very painful lesson.

e. So how did a defense that had only one ProBowl player hold the 2nd best offense in the league to 3 points (on a 53 yd FG at that) and not ONCE in the red zone? Hard to believe, let alone discuss with any real conviction, but I'll try and hope for some help from you.

1. Experience helps. It is clear that the Pats had a great grasp of the Rams offensive concepts. They KNEW what the Rams would do vs various defensive stratagems, and created a flexible plan that would make it difficult to accomplish their goals. The secret beauty of the plan is that it isn't just something you put together and trust it will be effective all game. The OTHER guys adjust too. So you plan must be fluid and EVER adjusting to the adjustments.

2. The first order of business would be to stop the Ram run game. The zone blocking scheme with a good OL and a GREAT RB was going to go against a seemingly mediocre looking front 7 that lacked a single "impact player"... or so it seemed going in to the game.

I almost did a double take the first time I noticed the 6-1 alignment. In fact I wasn't sure I saw what I saw until I started seeing some of the play clips after the game My first year of coaching was back in 1969. Back THEN the 6-1 alignment was dated. It was something you only saw on the GL or in very short yardage. It wasn't what you expected to see 5o years later in the superbowl. :eek: But it worked beautifully, because it defeated the stretch run plays that the Rams loved because it put a man on every Ram blocker. That meant no double teams, no pulls, and it was much easier to set the edge against any of Rams TE's, who Bill had determined were poor blockers.

There was a great Baldinger clip where the Rams were in an 11 alignment and had Reynolds winged up next to the OT. Chung lined up like an old DE right over Reynolds. The Rams ran the ball right at him. He defeated the block, threw Reynolds aside and stepped up to meet Gurley in the hole for a 2 yd gain. Once Chung beat the block there was no place for Gurley to go. No cut back lanes, no breaking it outside. It was a simple case of the Pats front 7 beating the that highly rated Rams OL one on one.

So how did they do that? There was another Baldinger clip that showed how the Pats DL were consistently playing lower than the Rams OL. Even back in my day, the "low man" won most of the up front battles. Another "simple" concept, yet one hard to implement. UNLESS you have a committed and disciplined team to work with,

f. So how did a team who was the 2nd WORST team in getting sacks during the regular season, suddenly become the leading sack team in the playoffs.....by far (10 sacks vs 7 for the 2nd best team - Colts) But even more importantly we saw how consistently they "pressured" and hit the QB. I remember how back in 2015 such a big deal was made of how the Bronco's just crushed Brady in their 2 pts win. A big deal was made about how they had put Brady down 12 times between sacks and hits. Well in this game the Pats hit Goff 12 times AND sacked him an additional 4 times. OUCH!

How was that done? And perhaps a better question is where was all that pressure during the regular season? I don't know. But the explanation that was given was one that seemed to be confirmed by what I saw in the clips.

1. Great series of schemes 2. great execution. 3. great coverage that gave the front 7 that extra second or 2 to get to their man.

The key, I think, was that Bill wasn't as impressed by the Rams OL as we were. By most accounts the Rams OL was rated the first or second by most services. But Bill thought they were better as a group than as individuals, so the plan was to keep them from "helping out". To do that the Pats planned to rush 5 against 5 and thus keep them from doubling. That's the general rule when you think the OL is weak. The corollary to that is when you need an extra DB, rush 4, but make it look like 5 are coming. Finally add to the confusion by stemming your DL.LB's (stunts).

Baldinger has clips on this that show that nothing the Pats did was revolutionary, but most were very well executed and designed that they consistently created pressure over half the time (which is a great percentage) Again those key elements, of execution and designed. It was beautiful to watch.

The end result was perhaps the most dominating defensive performance in a Superbowl since the 85 Bears (who gave up a garbage time TD late in the game) McVay will have a LOT of work to do this off season because this tape isn't going away. Everyone will be using it as a 'bluprint' on how to stop the Rams' offense. McVay's job will be to try and make his adjustments to that eventuality.

g. One of my favorite post game scenes was the one between Slater and Edelman. The sincerity of Slate's happiness on hearing that Jules got the MVP was breathtaking. He was literally crying with joy. BTW- Slater would be another guy who might just call it a career. And while you might be able to replace his work on ST's; they will be very hard pressed to replace his presence in the locker room. Slate is truly a leader of men. When his career is done, and I was a political party ,he'd be the first guy I'd go and recruit.

h. So back to the question I alluded to earlier, "where was this defense during the regular season"? Why did it take so long to manifest to what we saw in the playoffs? I really don't have an answer, but I thought it would be a good topic to speculate on.

i. Another question that comes to mind is where this defense LAST year? Well part of the answer is that JJones and Hightower (who both played key roles) weren't on the field. The RPO was still being deciphered. Foles played out of his mind in what was likely a career game.

I don't think it was a failure of Patricia. Remember that the basic concepts that formed the D plan came from the success Detroit had on defense. Bottom line was that the defense last year didn't have the same focus and execution we got this year.

j. So what about next year. There are teams who will have lots of cap space to buy talent. There are teams that will, by way of high picks in the draft, will add top end talent. Meanwhile the Pats will take their FA losses....again. On average fully 15-20 players on the final 53 will NOT be with the team next year. There is a reason why Bill gets them to forget about the past year, win or lose. Next year's team will be very different in their make up and character and require the staff to determine it's "identity" and the best ways to get them to reach their potential.

That will be a tall order in a year when they will, not only lose key players to FA and retirements, but they have also lost a significant portion of their staff. So it will be a very interesting off season. And while it doesn't ALWAYS work out, and we can expect a lot of our competition to get more TALENTED, we have come to expect that whatever 53 guys we trot out there come September, they will be much BETTER come December, January, and beyond. That is all we can ask.

Enjoy this because it might be as long a 12 months before we might feel this way again. ;)
 
Great insights. Thank You.
I was thinking that every team that wins a super bowl looks like they have great bonding and cameraderie in the afterglow of victory.
What is more telling to me is how does the team react to losses or difficult situations ( see Detroit, Tenessee, Miami, Jacsonville). What impresses me MOST about BB coached teams is taht in difficult situations or post tough losses, they never seem to throw each other under th bus and they take full responsibility for their mistakes.
This is why I thought the Steelers would not go far. After tough losses it seemed like Big Ben would throw his teammates under the bus.
One of Brady's greatest qualities is his leadership and truly what a great team mate he is.

Win or lose, he takes responsibility and never disparages his coaches or teammmates.
 
Great insights. Thank You.
I was thinking that every team that wins a super bowl looks like they have great bonding and cameraderie in the afterglow of victory.
What is more telling to me is how does the team react to losses or difficult situations ( see Detroit, Tenessee, Miami, Jacsonville). What impresses me MOST about BB coached teams is taht in difficult situations or post tough losses, they never seem to throw each other under th bus and they take full responsibility for their mistakes.
This is why I thought the Steelers would not go far. After tough losses it seemed like Big Ben would throw his teammates under the bus.
One of Brady's greatest qualities is his leadership and truly what a great team mate he is.

Win or lose, he takes responsibility and never disparages his coaches or teammmates.
The Pats always put out a video of the locker room celebration after a WIN. Like you pointed out it would be a LOT more revealing and interesting if the did the same thing after a loss.

But then again, I'm always hoping that the Pats would finally agree to be the team on "Hard Knocks" , so I'll put this hope in the same "not going to happen" category. ;)
 
Another 2 things that I meant to add to my post. One was this STAGGERING stat about Tom Brady. We all know about his 4th quarter heroics in EVERY one of the Pats 6 wins. However what sometimes is forgotten is that Brady made 2 4th quarter drives in the two Giant losses that put his team ahead before the D let him down. Also in the loss to Philly, Brady had another 4th quarter TD drive and was on his way to another before the stripsack ended our hopes.

Think about it. In 8 games of the highest pressure, Brady led 4th quarter drives that either put his team ahead or won the game, and even in the one that he didn't, he put up a 4th quarter TD. How good is that!

The 2nd item comes because I am STILL hearing about the "missed call" that cost the Saints their chance of getting to the Superbowl. It is really starting to piss me off. There have been numerous "missed calls" that have cost teams titles or chances of titles that were JUST as bad.

We only have to go back to the "helmet Catch" in '07. On that play there were THREE non-calls that were just as egregious as the one in NO. There was the "in the grasp" call that wasn't made. There was a clear hold that was missed. And the most blatant was the admitted STRANGULATION of Seymour by the Giants C. Any one of those could have just as easily been called and our undefeated season would have been a reality.

Now I point this out less as sour grapes for past injustices, but more to show that this is NOT the first time bad calls or non-calls have happened, and while it hurt (and still does) we acknowledge that its a painful part of the game. Now this is just an example that affected OUR team. I'm sure there are fans of many other teams that could add to what I've written It's time the Saints, their fans, and the freakin' media get over it.

BTW- From what I'm hearing most of the supposed fixes would cause the potential for more problems than solutions

Just sayin'
 
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Another 2 things that I meant to add to my post. One was this STAGGERING stat about Tom Brady. We all know about his 4th quarter heroics in EVERY one of the Pats 6 wins. However what sometimes is forgotten is that Brady made 2 4th quarter drives in the two Giant losses that put his team ahead before the D let him down. Also in the loss to Philly, Brady had another 4th quarter TD drive and was on his way to another before the stripsack ended our hopes.

Think about it. In 8 games of the highest pressure, Brady led 4th quarter drives that either put his team ahead or won the game, and even in the one that he didn't, he put up a 4th quarter TD. How good is that!

The 2nd item comes because I am STILL hearing about the "missed call" that cost the Saints their chance of getting to the Superbowl. It is really starting to piss me off. There have been numerous "missed calls" that have cost teams titles or chances of titles that were JUST as bad.

We only have to go back to the "helmet Catch" in '07. On that play there were THREE non-calls that were just as egregious as the one in NO. There was the "in the grasp" call that wasn't made. There was a clear hold that was missed. And the most blatant was the admitted STRANGULATION of Seymour by the Giants C. Any one of those could have just as easily been called and our undefeated season would have been a reality.

Now I point this out less as sour grapes for past injustices, but more to show that this is NOT the first time bad calls or non-calls have happened, and while it hurt (and still does) we acknowledge that its a painful part of the game. It's time the Saints, their fans, and the freakin' media get over it.

From what I'm hearing most of the supposed fixes would cause the potential for more problems than solutions

Just sayin'


Yeah, those calls kill me too....

On the other hand, we won some close games that could have easily gone the other way....

It is what it is....
 
b. Tom Brady clearly didn't have his best game (until it really mattered), but the effect of his leadership was so evident during this game. Now one of my pet peeves about this game was the notion that the Rams defense was JUST as effective as the Pats was during this game. But the reality was that, while Rams D was very good, the Pats WERE moving the ball at times but were constantly shooting themselves in the foot at key times. But looking at the clips, Brady kept his guys ready, alert and motivated, so when "the moment" came. His offense was ready to execute. And it took BOTH those final 2 drives to cement the win.
;)

I think for the casual-to-intermediate football fan it can be hard to discern between really good defense and just bad opposing offense, and vice versa. I can't always tell myself. 13-3 game with great defenses is a masterpiece, a 13-3 game with lousy offenses is a boring piece of sh*t.

I thought this was at the heart of the media and world saying it was a boring game vs. people here loving it.

So, did Brady not have his best game or was his opponent's defense just really good? Same on the other side of the ball. As you said, Brady figured it out enough at the end and the Rams didn't come close.
 
Thanks Ken.

Loved it.
 
Thanks Ken

Loved it too.
 
One question, Ken. Is the 6-1 style defense as much of an outlier as, say, the Wildcat was upon its debut? I know it's outside the box, but is it that far outside of the box?
 
Always enjoy reading your threads @patfanken lots of insight that I have missed during the last few weeks.

I agree with you about the part that we will be losing some good players this offseason due to FA, and some of these guys will get the payout that they deserve, especially the likes of Flowers and Trent Brown and few other guys on the D-line.

This is gonna be an interesting off season, it’s too bad that there aren’t any decent quarterbacks in this years draft that we can pick up in the late rounds to groom behind Brady.

This upcoming year I hope to see more of the run game, Sony Michel is getting better, White is still solid and Burkhead if he stays healthy he will be a very good backup.
Oh I forget Jeremy Hill is there too...I think we all forgot about him, he can be explosive and it’s good to have a veteran power runner in there, just have to work on protecting the ball better.

I hope our secondary stays together, the twins started playing well late in the season, JC Jackson has been very solid and guy is gonna keep improving, Gilmore shows us why we paid him top dollars, glad we went with him instead of giving Butler a big payout.

Brady needs another deep threat, we cannot rely on Gordon if somehow he is back next year, I don’t know if we can get anyone decent in the draft to take the top off, Dorsett can fly, but he lacks size and I am not even sure if he will be back next year.

Now, our linebacker core has been solid this year, sure Hightower didn’t have an impactful regular season but he had a good playoff run, hope to keep this guy healthy, but he has been hampered by injuries the last few years.

Kyle Van Noy has been improving every year and this year he has been impressive, he has been better than Ninkovich since he retired, overall I’m happy with the LB crew.

We have lots of coaches that joined other teams, I liked what Flores bought to the table, hopefully the next guy up isn’t afraid to implement more blitzes and agreesive playcalling on defense.
 
Loved the fact that rather than playing horizontally, the defense was allowed to play vertically and to my eye, it seemed the players loved being able to play proactive D.
 
Football changes year to year. This year because of rule changes that favored the passing game, the NFL was a high scoring, vertical, high flying circus. Like when the NBA layed down the 3 point stripe the low post game went away and their games turned into the Globetrotters.

Truthfully I like old school football. The football I grew up with. This SuberBowl was a pleasant surprise for me. It brought back the old saying and how we won #6. “The game is won in the trenches”.
 
We had a perfect storm on defense - game-plan + execution. We had a tropical storm on offense, which quickly became a Cat 5 hurricane for two drives to take the lead and win.

Good thing, because Wade's plan was pretty damn good - almost Patriot-like (bend, don't break, wait for the other guys to make a mistake).
 
Thanks again Ken.

I truly enjoy your insights into the game of football. If there was a limit to threads allowed for this sight this would be one that I'd choose, along with the re-watch and This Day in Pats History threads.

You mentioned Baldinger and there was something I noticed when I watched his superb analysis of the plays. He almost sounded disappointed when he talked about the Pats' dominance. I wonder if that was because he was hoping for the Rams to win or if it was my bias showing.

My only other question is how long before the NYFL runs out of red, white and blue confetti. ;)
 
Thank you Ken. I have really enjoyed your insights all season again.
 
However what sometimes is forgotten is that Brady made 2 4th quarter drives in the two Giant losses that put his team ahead before the D let him down.

Nope. The Patriots last points in the second Super Bowl against the Giants came on the opening drive in the second half. There were no late game heroics by Brady.
 
g. One of my favorite post game scenes was the one between Slater and Edelman. The sincerity of Slate's happiness on hearing that Jules got the MVP was breathtaking.

My Slater jersey literally just arrived... It's my only Pats jersey. I considered for years who I would get: my answer always went to Slater, the kind of unsung player I admire. That scene, Slater genuinely joyed with Edelman winning, made me pull the trigger and order it.
 
Ken brought us re-watching lots of stuff over the past two weeks. I watched the the end of this Super Bowl and the Falcons one. One thing that struck me -- Brady, Kraft and Belichick all talked at the end.....And, though not word for word, they said almost exactly the same things both times.

Belichick - "It's all about the players".
Brady - "We appreciate all of our fans supporting us"
Kraft - "We are all patriots and today the Patriots are world champions"

One a little sad thing I noticed, Robert Kraft's energy level had dropped significantly in the past two years. I know he's nearing 80, so maybe that is to be expected.
 
Ken, I enjoy reading your posts. I also like reading the responses. Maybe an abbreviated post-game analysis next year?
 
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