Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by pats1, Jul 17, 2008.
good news when one of your higher picks is signed
Good stuff. Now hopefully they can get Mayo signed so he won't have to miss the start of Training Camp.
i'm sure he won't miss a whole lot of camp.
They have been saying that Mayo is a smart guy. Now we will see how smart he is. If he doesn't get signed by training camp, he's not that bright.
He would be about as smart as you...
exactly what i was going to say. everyone says how hard it is to play LB in belichick's system too.
So...anybody have any info on Wilhite? Stats are nice, but I find cornerbacks usually look like they do or don't have "it".
The way they stride, how smooth they are. Any auburn or SEC fans?
BTW, from a little film, I think Wheatley has "it" in spades.
Who are we to say he is dumb for not signing before training camp? There is a difference between a few days and missing most of camp. If it takes him a few days to get the deal he wants, I don't see anything wrong with that. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, how contracts are initially presented, if he's lowballed, etc.
Obviously a protracted holdout that extends well into camp is bad, but again, I don't think it would be indicative of a lack of intelligence.
This year I think that if 1 or 2 miss the first few days..it will be LESS of a big deal...with teh 80 limit some have said that having a few draft picks miss a few days will give others a chance to be on the field....OTHER years with the NFLE exemptions etc..teams have had 6-7 more bodies in camp. believe it or not..with PUPers etc..80 is a low number.
I know an Auburn fan; he said Wilhite is pretty average.
Well, I have only seen a game or two, but when Auburn had him play tight m2m coverage he didn't do all that well. You could see skills there though, I think he will do better where he can play in a zone.
Wilhite is, I hope, one of those Belichick picks that make no sense to anyone, but works out well because he "sees something." As of now, from all I've read and the little I've seen, it's a "bad" pick. Glad he's in the fold, though. Now we get to see how good (or not) the kid really is.
As a strong tackler and with that speed he should be a good special teams player. Even if he does show nickelback potential, he's probably a year away from any sort of playing time.
I don't think there is such thing as a "bad pick" at the end of the 4th round. If he's a bust you'll be able to list 6 guys we could have taken but for those 6 I will be able to list 60+ busts. After the first half of the 4th round my expectations drop and I don't consider any pick a bad pick, just a longshot that didn't work out.
I put "bad" in "quotes" for a "reason."
Your right. It's a classic BB pick. He was overshadowed by David Irons and Patrick Lee during his college career, but he has good measurables so the potential is there at a low risk draft slot.
Of course a fourth rounder is a crap shoot. Asante was small school, Gay (fa) was injured and who knows why they selected this kid.
I probably have more faith in their judgment of cornerbacks than any other position though. They seem to know what they're looking for and it's not necessarily what other teams want, don't forget.
I liked Richardson in brief action last year. Like i say, I do make snap judgments on cornerbacks (and no other position) based on how they move and that doesnt take into account the other 90% of what makes up a football player.
Getting an average (NFL) cornerback with a 4 would be pretty good.
It is good to see that the Patriots are well on their way to signing their draft picks. This next week is when a lot of the higher round picks tend to get signed and getting the 6th, 5th, and 4th rounders done already bodes well for the rest of them.
He meant average on a college scale.
Samuel = 120th
Wilhite is gonna be good. I've got the vibe. OR I assume BB knows a LOT more about potential than I do.
Agreed, he's got great speed (4.38) - fits the mold along with Hobbs and Wheatley. They must believe they can coach him [Wilhite] into a better player than the "draft pundits" had him pegged as.
The thing with the pundits is they fixate on the trend of the big WR too much and kinda peg guys for their size which if you have listened to Scott and Bill you would know they actually perfer the smaller shiftier corners for their agility.
Just off the top of my head I recall one of them saying the big thing is the ability to react to what the WR does because unlike the WR you don't know where your going before yuo have to go there. I guess the smaller guys have more fluid hips which allows them to react and cut quicker. Maybe someone else remembers the comments I speak to and can elaborate.
Pioli on NEST with a post-draft interview with Felger. And I think he was saying exactly what you say above - its easier for the smaller guys to stay with wideouts - of any size - in and out of cuts.
We took a shot on Wilhite in the 4th. He is expected to replace Spann/Ventrone as our 9th DB this year. He might never be active and be considered a developmental player. He is still a good choice in the 4th round.
I know, I was only kidding. People do need to get out of this mindset that there's a fixed scale of players at each position. BB knows what he's looking for in cornerbacks and it's not the same as other teams. It seems he values quickness and change of direction and tries to get proven veterans with size as situational guys.
I couldn't quote them, but he got pretty specific on the idea they look for quickness and change of direction ability.
Anybody have the measurables on Wilhite's 3-cone, etc... that gives an idea of quickness and COD ability?
Thanks from the lazy...
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