bostonia3333
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This place is a joke. I am embarrassed for many of the posters here.
Must suck to have no brain and not know what you are talking about. First post of the thread said nothing about doom and gloom. Neither did the 2nd. Only pointed out issues in the game. I suggest you take your head out of your own arse and realize how pathetically arrogant you sound attempting to say that my initial post was doom and gloom. People like yourself who can't be bothered with reading comprehension and have to react like total jerks are the issue.
I suggest you don't say anything to anyone going forward because you only make a fool of yourself when you do.
This was the23rd post in this thread and the first not criticizing Belichick, or the WRs, or Brady. Why don't you fly by night fans go chase the latest hot team. How about the Jets or Jaguars. Y'all don't deserve anything better.
I have never seen so much complaining about a 5-1 record! :rocker:
I thought the pass to Hooman never hit the ground it was on top of his shoe.
This was the23rd post in this thread and the first not criticizing Belichick, or the WRs, or Brady. Why don't you fly by night fans go chase the latest hot team. How about the Jets or Jaguars. Y'all don't deserve anything better.
I have never seen so much complaining about a 5-1 record! :rocker:
The false start was clearly a blown call by the officials, and the replay showed it.
I think perhaps you don't have the rule correct.
Defensive players are allowed to be in the neutral zone. It is never a foul simply to be in the neutral zone. It's only a foul if it's encroachment (which requires contact) or offside.
It's only encroachment if they are in the zone and make contact. It is only offside if they are in the zone when the ball is snapped. Once an offensive player moves, it's immediately a dead ball, so there is no snap. At that point, the only question is whether the defensive player caused a natural and immediate infraction by the offense. That's a pure judgment call. And nothing on the replay establishes it one way or the other. The fact that there was a hard count makes it, to me, an easy call.
There was nothing on the replay showing contact -- I sure didn't see it. So there's no way it's encroachment. And there's nothing on the replay to me that establishes the official made an improper judgment call.
It's only encroachment if they are in the zone and make contact. It is only offside if they are in the zone when the ball is snapped. Once an offensive player moves, it's immediately a dead ball, so there is no snap. At that point, the only question is whether the defensive player caused a natural and immediate infraction by the offense. That's a pure judgment call. And nothing on the replay establishes it one way or the other. The fact that there was a hard count makes it, to me, an easy call.
Actually the rule is to allow the player to protect himself from being hit, not to give him an allowance to move because someone on the defense did.But there's no way you can make something like that a 'judgement call' if the OL moves right away, impossible to know his intention. The only question is whether a)the OL movement is instantaneous in reaction to someone in the neutral zone or b) there is a defender in the neutral zone, hesitation from the OL, it clicks in the OL head that I can draw an offsides, and then moves. A is a foul on the defense, B is on the offense. In this case, the Saints OL movement was instantaneous so IMO it's quite unfair to 'judge' he wasn't moving based off our guy jumping. We definitely got away with one there.
Actually the rule is to allow the player to protect himself from being hit, not to give him an allowance to move because someone on the defense did.
an ex-ref doesn't think the pats did a neutral zone infraction, so maybe it isn't so cut and dry
https://twitter.com/RefereeJimD/status/389524513719074816
The Ex-Ref is referring to the ability to get back prior to the snap as long as contact is not made and there's not a clear path to the QB. That's not applicable here, though, because of the OL movement in response to the Patriots movement.
he also said that he didn't believe the saints snapped it while he was in the NZ so no foul in his opinion