RayClay
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I didn't forget Rodgers, at all, and Warner's out of the league.
He's out of the league, which means what?
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I didn't forget Rodgers, at all, and Warner's out of the league.
You mentioned four QBs for some reason. I'm not really sure why, since my argument was about burning 1st round QBs.
Secondary point was, that given time, even seemingly mediocre QBs stayed in the league while #1 picks flamed out in a matter of years. You seem to be saying hardly anyone develops QBs because hardly anyone develops QBs. Don't know what your point was, other than that. So many drafted and thrown in, some are successful, at least so far.
You remarked that it was significant that Aaron Rodgers was a 1st round pick responding to my argument that many 1st round picks flamed out because they were thrown right in.
But Rodgers was hardly thrown right in and was a 1st round pick. So, you gave back an example of the positive side of my argument, for some odd reason.
He's out of the league, which means what?
Because you were talking about developing QBs over time. I posted the only non-1st round QBs for whom that had happened. They happen to be pretty much the only QBs who get a development 'opportunity' these days, but most don't develop.
But your point was not valid, because it completely ignores history and reality. Hell, just go back and start from 1981.
I remarked on his being a first rounder because he didn't fit with the only other developmental QBs with a chance to start in the NFL in 2014. This isn't rocket science. Rodgers was riding the pine because Favre was in front of him. He wasn't riding the pine because it was thought that he wasn't ready and still needed developing.
I assume you're joking here.
Go back to 1981 and do what?
You don't know how well he would have done under pressure from the start, so why act like you do?
I really don't know what you're talking about.
Really? You don't know what I'm talking about when I note that a guy's not in position to start in 2014 because he's out of the league? Do you also not know what I'm talking about when I point out that he came into the league quite some time back while I've been discussing the current and recent situation, and that his development mostly occurred in a league other than the NFL?
It's interesting (when the mood grips you) to read the content of posters you have ignored as a quick reminder as to why you've ignored them. Use the ignore function. Your Patsfans experience will be far more pleasant.Damn, I wrecked the training camp thread. Done...
James Morris is healthy and back with the Patriots!
http://hawkcentral.com/2014/08/02/healthy-morris-latches-on-with-patriots/
I noticed that too they were also giving them away in the restaurants in Patriots place. I was given a ticket to it but it seemed if you wanted to get in it was easy to get a ticket.
I'm old enough to remember when the rule of thumb was five years to develop a starting quarterback. You would think, looking at all the 1st round draft choices who have crashed and burned over the last decade or so, that people would look to coaches like Belichick who have developed 7th round picks and UDFAs through patient and consistent coaching, while other teams threw first rounders to the wolves and wrecked them.
I don't think I have to mention all the 1st rounders wrecked by the instant hero mentality.
Garoppolo is a division 2 QB. They want him to hold a clipboard for a year and learn from Brady and Mallet. If they like him, I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a vet next year to replace Mallet, so the kid can learn without pressure.
Is it just me, or should this stuff really be obvious in a way?