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    I clicked on the link with the picture and figured it'd be just another sad picture of Davis. Wow, was I wrong. That is the saddest picture of anyone, ever.
     
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    Why any one would take a HC job with this guy is beyond me :idontgetit:
     
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    True. Three straight head coaches he has screwed out of money owed to them.
     
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    And on a positive note, it looks like HBO can dump the puppet and go with Al Davis as the Cryptkeeper on any possible reload of Tales from the Crypt.
     
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    Because there are so few open jobs every year and you have to start somewhere.

    It's a "No Lose" situation for a coach, particularly a young coach. If you win, you won despite Al Davis to media perception. Meaning you can handle anything. If you lose and get fired, it's because Al Davis interfered or was perceived to have done so and no coach has a chance to really win consistently under the meddling.

    Look at the Josh McDaniels situation in contrast. Pat Bowlen and the Denver front office GAVE McDaniels broad powers. And then when it backfired, they picked McDaniels up and threw him on his sword to distance themselves from the choice in the first place. As if it was his fault he was given those powers. McDaniels has to work hard to wash the stink of that off of him. Coaches can be good or bad and do little and the stink rolls right off if they can't succeed with the Raiders. It is a rare working situation in the NFL.

    Al Davis does have an eye for talent, he will spend money and he will take risks. He just does everything more poorly now than he did it in the past.

    The unfortunate situation is the job is most attractive to former head coaches who don't really have a shot anymore anywhere else ( Fassel, Shell, Bugel and to some degree, at the time, Norv Turner ) or a super young coach who needs a big break and is looking ahead to his post Raiders coaching career ( Kiffin, Gruden)

    People forget Ted Turner was formerly was one of the worst owners in all of pro sports. Then at some point, he got baseball people to run things and do things there way and he stepped out of their way. All Al Davis needs to do is hire a GM and get out of the way.

    As for Cable, he has nothing to lose here. He won't work for the Raiders again. He may never be a head coach again ( the domestic violence thing is too much of a negative for a league trying to draw in more female fans and has more female fans than ever and his record isn't sterling ) anyway so he might as well go for the money. Also publicly it distances himself from Davis, i.e. they didn't get along and its a way to lay Cables problems and failures as coach on Davis. I'm sure Cable's agent saw it as a tradeoff PR move. The short term dragging of the domestic violence issue to light over the long term issue of making Davis look like the culprit behind Cable's lack of success. ( It was probably both issues together to be honest, both Davis and Cable were culpable for the failures of this team)

    Personally I think it's a mistake for Cable. Two major issues are public, we don't know if more is buried. At some level its more than just coaching opportunities and money, it's about your privacy. Or what little you can salvage as a pro coach.
     
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    I'm not going to criticize his appearance, form of dress, etc. Hes 81 years old.

    I will criticize his ability to run a multi-million dollar business and be totally stubborn in the process by refusing to relinquish his control of day-to-day operations and organizational strategy because he is 81 years old.
     
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    I would never want Davis anywhere near my team, but after reading his quotes from his press conference, it seemed to me that maybe Cable and Kiffin deserved to be docked pay. Al's previous history with coaches does him no good though in dealing with those 2 guys. Hell, he called Kiffin a liar. Amazing!!

    And Tom Cable had 3 women suing him for abuse, in addition to breaking a coach's jaw and teeth?

    I can't say I blame Al for any of it.

    I would only blame Davis for his drafting and for his horrid management, but I did get a kick out of his directness at the PC.

    One more suggestion, instead of the Raider with the eyepatch on the helmet (I always confused him with the Hathaway shirt model anyway) I might consider plastering Davis' face on the helmet instead.
     
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    He looks like Goldmember.
    I wonder if he picks his skin and eats it, too.:p
     

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    I'd like to sue Al Davis for the recovery of Richard Seymour.
     
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    Tom Cable is a wife-beating douchebag. Al Davis is a crypt-keeper douchebag. The NFL will be better off with both of these clowns out of the picture. Thank God for Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick.
     
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    That's what I was thinking. There are only 32 of these jobs, and only a handful become available each year. It's the same with QBs - once you get your foot in the door and get that experience, you can get work for a while unless you really blow it. Look how long Rick Mirer was in the league.

    I don't blame Jackson or anyone else for taking the HC job under Davis. Once you're experienced and higher up the ladder, you can be a little more picky.

    That doesn't change the fact that Davis is bats***-crazy... but everyone knows that so they'll cut you some slack if you didn't have the best record.
     
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    Yeah, I know it wasn't the most appropriate thing. But that was just how I reacted when I saw that picture. Normally I'm not so shallow or mean-spirited. My grandfather lived to be 86 and he never looked that bad.

    I admire Al quite a bit for what he did to turn the Raiders around in the early '60s and how he took on the NFL during his brief stint as AFL Commissioner. But since then he's been a real dink.
     
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    I doubt Jon Gruden regrets taking the job, and he's probably still the example that people look to when talking themselves into it.
     
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