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  1. Fencer

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    Which Pats do you think deserve votes for the Pro Bowl:

    1. Legitimately?
    2. As homer votes? :)

    My current list is:

    Legitimate Patriot Pro Bowlers

    Brady
    Moss
    Mankins
    Vrabel
    Samuel
    Wilfork (there are two spots at tackle, not one, so it's OK to think Hampton is better and still vote for Wilfork)
    Light -- yeah, he's not pancaking anybody on running plays, and the fact that there aren't many running plays may be a mild indictment of the run-blocking -- but he's been very, very good at pass blocking. Yeah, I'm surprised too.

    Defensible Homer Patriot Pro Bowl votes

    Welker -- WR, KR, or both -- not because he's the best returner, but because he'd add more to the team overall than a superior returner would :). He'd also add more in the slot than yet another stud #1 outside type would.
    Warren -- he deserved it last year, and hasn't stunk this year
    Gostowksi -- good results
    Hanson -- ditto
    Izzo -- tradition
    Colvin -- he was playing very well until hurt
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    A lack of running plays is an indictment on the run-blocking? No. It's an indictment on the crappy RB we have. Matt Light's run-blocking was perfectly fine when Corey Dillon was running the ball in 2004.
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    Brady
    Moss
    Mankins
    Samuel
    Wilfork
    Welker
    Izzo
    Light

    All legit candids for the pro bowl. With Moss, Mankins, Brady and Izzo being the locks.
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    I like your legit list, I'd take Light off it though. He's had a few weak weeks. I'd say Welker is also boardering on legit, but he won't get it, cuz Randy is a lock.

    As for the homer list............ Yup it surely is one :cool: Since we're dreaming, I'd add Washington (ST)
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    What's so Pro Bowl great about Izzo?

    Honest question.
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    I dont know. I would elect Kelley Washington over Izzo.

    My Votes

    Brady
    Moss
    Vrabel
    Samuel
    Mankins
    Welker (too many receptions and good overall play to not get in)
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    I'd say offense:

    Brady
    Moss
    Light
    Mankins
    Koppen
    Welker

    Defense:

    Wilfork
    Vrabel
    Samuel

    Special Teams:

    Washington
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    If Mankins doesn't make it this year it will be a travesty...
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    Brady
    Moss
    Mankins

    Wilfork
    Vrabel
    Samuel

    i thought Koppen deserved it earlier..but it sort of dropped
    i thought Warren deserved it but hes not getting the pressure he got last year. him and Seymour are basically being single blocked..held at times but hes not as impressive as last year. Wilfork is dominating. 2 years ago..it was Seymour..last year..Warren..now its Wilfork. Vince is a beast in middle.

    other considerations would be Welker as a returnman but hes not our KR guy..does PR but i think Washington/Cribbs/Parrish are all doing better

    Harrison i would consider but hes not allowed am i right because the suspension? hes played great imo but guys like Rhodes/Reed/Polamalu/Sanders are all playing well when on the field
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    Ahh. I forgot Koppen from the homer list. Thanks!
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    All non-patriot players. I would love for them to have the honor/contract incentives, but I don't want them to have strokes or blow out knees as part of the wasted weekend festivities.

    Let some other team's players go their instead.

    In fact, I think I'll go vote for non-pat players just to cancel out some of your folks votes.
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    My votes -
    Brady
    Moss
    Welker

    Mankins
    Light

    Wilfork
    Vrabel
    Samuel

    I know it doesn't mean anything, but I would love to see Vrabel go to the Pro Bowl, he is having an awesome year! :)
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    Obvious legit players, even to the casual NFL fan:
    Brady (duh!)
    Moss (double duh!)

    Obvious legit players to the knowledgeable football fan:
    Mankins (Best all-around guard in football)
    Samuel (Nobody throws at him. Approaching Bailey-esque respect)

    Legit player, not obvious, but arguable and probably will make it:
    Koppen (Not best 1-on-1 blocker, but makes calls for best pass-blocking OL in the game)

    Guy who may make it despite questionable play of late:
    Light

    Guys who have a solid case, but have stiff competition:
    Wilfork (Hampton and Haynesworth have been better)
    Vrabel (I'd imagine Bulluck and Harrison will beat him out, amongst others)

    Guys who will definitely lose out due to lots of competition and reputations:
    Welker (Moss, Edwards, Wayne, Chad Johnson & TJ Housh will all gets nods ahead of him)

    Regards,
    Chris
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    First of all, not running the ball is a CREDIT to our passing game, which happens to be the best in NFL history.
    Secondly, how can not running the ball be either about only the blocking or the running? If the Patriots are refusing to run (which they are not) it would be because of blocking more than the RB, because with good blocking, you can put another RB in there if you are unhappy with your RB, but cannot really replace your whole OL.
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    What about in 2005 with Dillon? 2006?

    Our run blocking is not good, especially when compared to our pass blocking.

    Anyways, I give my vote to Brady, Moss, Mankins, Koppen, Wilfork, Vrabel and Samuel.
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    I also wanted to mention Koppen. Not the most imposing guy out there, but good at his job and smart. For the homer vote I would put Welker out there, and Warren as well.

    Not Matt Light. But he seems to be going anyway, so my vote won't matter. I think of him as a great candidate for right tackle, but a slightly above average left tackle. If he goes, I wish him the best. After all, I would rather see all Patriots at the pro-bowl anyway.
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    Ack. You're right.

    Demote Wilfork to Homer list.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the Pats fielded more offensive pro-bowlers in the Pete Carrol Era (specifically the year Kordell carved them up in the divisional game):

    Bledsoe - QB
    Martin - RB
    Armstrong - LT
    Glenn - WR
    Gash - FB
    Coates - TE
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    Man it's going to be awesome if Chris Hanson makes the Pro Bowl.
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    Brady
    Moss
    Welker
    Mankins

    Samuel
    Vrabel


    on the fence: Wilfork
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