Kraft to make announcement for Pats fans at noon (Pats-themed state lottery)

[signbabybrady]

any idea when they will be in stores?

 

[billdog3484]

what kind of press conference feed is this, you cannot even tell what is going on

 

[eagle eye]

Its over, announcing Mass. lottery game in conjunction with the Patriots. There are five lifetime season tickets among the prizes. I'm gonna buy a whole bunch of them.

 

[Deus Irae]

I love the way the NFL refuses to condone gambling, and this is just another step affirming that lofty, principled ideal.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Re: Kraft to make special announcement for Pats fans at noon

I love the way the NFL refuses to condone gambling, and this is just another step affirming that lofty, principled ideal.

Lotteries are considered a game of chance. There is no wagering on the outcome of a sporting event. They carry no potential to impact the integrity of the game. Plus they are conducted to benefit cities and towns, not gamblers... But other than that, dead on as usual...

 

[jmt57]

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NFL has no problem with gambling per se. They just want to protect the value of their own product. Players and coaches gambling on games could have the potential to devalue their brand tremendously; endorsement deals with state-run lotteries do not carry that risk.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

any idea when they will be in stores?

I checked the lottery website and they have no announcement up. They gave out tickets in the media packages and to the players in the locker room, so I'd guess by the end of the week. Apparently the always clever Matt Light immediately set to work convincing Brady to split his with his OLmen if he won...

 

[patchick]

Re: Kraft to make special announcement for Pats fans at noon

NFL has no problem with gambling per se. They just want to protect the value of their own product. Players and coaches gambling on games could have the potential to devalue their brand tremendously; endorsement deals with state-run lotteries do not carry that risk.

Exactly. And the more money that's wagered on NFL games, the greater the chance that somebody -- a line judge, a journeyman placekicker, what have you -- will realize they have a "price." So the league is much happier to see football-loving gamblers throw their money down this alternative sinkhole, with a cut to the local team. No hypocrisy, just business.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Kraft to make special announcement for Pats fans at noon

Lotteries are considered a game of chance. There is no wagering on the outcome of a sporting event. They carry no potential to impact the integrity of the game. Plus they are conducted to benefit cities and towns, not gamblers... But other than that, dead on as usual...

It's gambling.

According to an article by Jessica Holzer from TheHill.com, Martin Gold, a lobbyist at Covington & Burling who represents the National Football League (NFL), stated in a letter sent by e-mail to the offices of Financial Services Committee members the following:

“Our sports organizations would very strongly oppose any effort to legalize any online sports gambling. We would also oppose any legislation that would legalize and regulate non-sports gambling online, because we do not believe that differential treatment of sports gambling and other gambling online would be sustainable in the current environment."

NFL Vice President Joe Browne confirms the view expressed by the lobbyist.

NFL opposes online gambling, not just sports betting

But you keep trying to work that fine line just as the NFL is doing.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

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It's gambling.



NFL opposes online gambling, not just sports betting

But you keep trying to work that fine line just as the NFL is doing.

If you think it's a fine line at play here, you need glasses.

 

[Deus Irae]

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If you think it's a fine line at play here, you need glasses.

If you can't see the hypocrisy of the NFL on this, you need a guide dog.

 

[lostjumper]

The coolest part is, if you don't like your ticket, you can trade down for a $3 ticket this year, and a $3 ticket next year...

 

[patchick]

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It's gambling.



NFL opposes online gambling, not just sports betting

But you keep trying to work that fine line just as the NFL is doing.

From the article you link to:

"We would also oppose any legislation that would legalize and regulate non-sports gambling online, because we do not believe that differential treatment of sports gambling and other gambling online would be sustainable in the current environment."

The league makes it perfectly clear that they object to online gambling of all kinds ONLY BECAUSE they think it will inevitably lead to online sports gambling. They don't even pretend to care about gambling as a "moral" issue. You can't be a hypocrite without pretending to care. A heartless, money-grubbing bastard, yes...but that's a different argument.

 

[Deus Irae]

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From the article you link to:

"We would also oppose any legislation that would legalize and regulate non-sports gambling online, because we do not believe that differential treatment of sports gambling and other gambling online would be sustainable in the current environment."

The league makes it perfectly clear that they object to online gambling of all kinds ONLY BECAUSE they think it will inevitably lead to online sports gambling. They don't even pretend to care about gambling as a "moral" issue. You can't be a hypocrite without pretending to care. A heartless, money-grubbing bastard, yes...but that's a different argument.

It's still opposing the gambling. It's still hypocritical. Now, they not only aren't opposing gambling, they are making money off of it, all by slicing off the 'type' of gambling they feign outrage over.

Maybe when the NFL gets rid of injury reports and stops pimping fantasy football it will begin to evidence at least a shred of integrity on the issue.

 

[FortressX]

I checked the lottery website and they have no announcement up. They gave out tickets in the media packages and to the players in the locker room, so I'd guess by the end of the week. Apparently the always clever Matt Light immediately set to work convincing Brady to split his with his OLmen if he won...

They are out now. In some stores. UPS delivers them, so some might not get them till tomorrow.
I bought one. Lost.

 

[Gwedd]

The coolest part is, if you don't like your ticket, you can trade down for a $3 ticket this year, and a $3 ticket next year...

How about a $2 and four $1? There's always extra value in multiple picks..

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Expect him to announce the finalization of the Peppers deal. I am excited

 

[Deus Irae]

Just some follow up:

"If it wasn't for the economic times, (the league allowing lottery deals might not have happened)," said Patriots Chairman Robert Kraft. "The fact that we know to get an extension to the labor agreement, we have to work every way we can to grow revenues.

"Look at spending by automobile companies and (beer companies), they're just not spending," Kraft added. "We have two bankrupt automotive companies. (Other) car companies are just not spending money. And beer companies aren't spending the way they did.

"We have to go out and be resourceful and create new revenue or we'll have a real problem in the labor area."

Dying NFL revenues paved way for lotteries | ProFootballTalk.com

Principle was fine until it conflicted with finances.

 

[Gwedd]

I don't see the "principle" problem with this issue. Investing in the lottery is no different than investing in a first-round pick. You don't know how it's gonna turn out until you scratch the surface and see what's there.

respects,

 

[FortressX]

Lottery has finally posted info on this ticket.
Massachusetts State Lottery - News
Prize structure and odds here
Massachusetts State Lottery - Instant Win Tickets
I am not able to find info about what is in the Merchandise Pack at this time.

This ticket should have been released alone, not with a bunch of other tickets.
Even with the lottery the Pats play second fiddle to the Sox.