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That is what Gnostic Christianity promotes. Man first, God second. If we cannot see God in all, then we will never know God at all. Regards DL

Indeed. The lucky ones. Regards DL

Too many here played football for too long. Regards DL

That was back when. Not these days. Regards DL

I missed this somehow. Apologies. I agree. It is getting harder to lie openly to people the way priests, preachers and imams of the older religions are continuing to do doing today. Regards DL

True that people have spiritual sides, but once you become an idol worshiper like Christians are, spirituality is not something they pay attention to. Only their idol matters. That is the difference between spirituality and religiosity. Regards DL

I do not agree, but, have you ever gotten one of those out of a theist? Regards DL

It is more like pity for those lost to the supernatural and cannot give an honest evaluation of the genocidal son murderer. Regards DL

Not while theists run away for sure. BTW, there is no best way to have someone deluded change their poor thinking. Regards DL

You claim logical flaws yet did not show then. Ask your dog for help. He is likely brighter. I did not attempt to outsmart God. I did show though that he does not follow his own best advice and commandments. Regards DL

This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own golden rule. God kills when he could just as easily cure. This is irrefutable. This is a clear violation of the golden rule. The golden rule as articulated by Jesus. God then is clearly evil. Do you agree with...

I see believing lies for their comfort as delusional. This condition is quite close to the Stockholm Syndrome and I think it fits well with how delusion is described. Let's agree to disagree though as I do not want to get into a conversation of semantics and the meaning of words. We both...

"God needs to be partly bad cause the world is partly bad." Genocidal, to me, is more than partly bad. That aside. From what you say, if I read you right, believers have sold their moral souls to a satanic God in the hope of reaching heaven. Rather a strange and immoral situation. No? Do you...

If any of those you mentioned existed, they were just men. Enlightened men perhaps but just men. The fact that they all followed immoral genocidal Gods should have turned people off to them. Why do you think people follow genocidal Gods and think them good? Regards DL

I am 66 and have generally always thought as I do. I label myself a Gnostic Christian and esoteric ecumenist and not an atheist. To a Gnostic Christian, God is a man and not some supernatural sky daddy. The religious have definitely been lied to and I see most atheist. as not so much pissed of...

Indeed. I just agree with your founding fathers. Don't you? Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson Regards DL

People first, God second. Should people put themselves above God? Jesus put people above God and so should we. “Mark 2;27 And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: 28Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.” I think that the world would be...

Why did we stop inventing gods? The ancients were quite good at inventing new gods. The bible shows that the Jews invented many gods before deciding that god could not be defined and settled for “I am“, as the greatest expression of god. “I am” as spoken as a man...

Reward in a particular way. No. Punish. Punish who? Hitler was not born evil. He was made evil, unless insane, by all who made him that way or facilitated his rein. From a God's POV, who knows all the past, he would see that all who raised of facilitated his genocide should share in his blame...

Indeed. And quite immoral when punishing for infinite time for an infraction in a finite life. Regards DL