OT: (edit) COPA Finals - Argentina vs Chile !!!

AzorianPats · Jun 21, 2016

Yedlin going forward is impressive..

Need to get Dempsey more involved.

I actually like Bradley. He has a good feel for the game, but lacks execution.

Ivan · Jun 21, 2016

juny said:
Theres no money in soccer best athletes are drawn to football basketball and baseball

Ronaldo got 88 million this year.

juny · Jun 21, 2016

Ivan said:
Ronaldo got 88 million this year.

Correction domestically theres no money in soccer

Observer · Jun 21, 2016

This team is the king of cheapshots right now. Not making a good impression.

AzorianPats · Jun 21, 2016

Ivan said:
It's a team in a long transition, can't fault them tonight though, they are simply outclassed in terms of ability across the board. They can scrap all they want, the opposition is better all the way around.

True, but whats the difference besides Jones from this team and the 2014 World Cup?

The US didnt look this out matched playing Germany, Portugal or Belgium

Ivan · Jun 21, 2016

Don't like that foul by Guzman. The US needs their next great goalie.

IcyPatriot · Jun 21, 2016

juny said:
Correction domestically theres no money in soccer

MLS is so communist .... a few washed up stars get paid that's about it.

IcyPatriot · Jun 21, 2016

AzorianPats said:
True, but whats the difference besides Jones from this team and the 2014 World Cup?

The US didnt look this out matched playing Germany, Portugal or Belgium

Jones absence is huge tonight.

AzorianPats · Jun 21, 2016

IcyPatriot said:
Jones absence is huge tonight.

Hes a player man! Along with Dempsey and Howard my fav American player

borg · Jun 21, 2016

It's a DNA thing. Americans just don't possess the soccer gene.
Until the Dion Lewis' and Malcolm Butlers and Barry Sanders type athletes with superior quickness skip past football and start playing soccer, the USA will never elevate. Even then, the DNA just won't be there for generations.

Icy Patriot…I agree with your midfield assessment and USA Soccer's decrees of alignment. My kid's travel team had to forego creative alignments that produced wins because USA Soccer had their development beliefs. Hence ….ZERO CREATIVITY>>>USA STYLE.

Ivan · Jun 21, 2016

AzorianPats said:
True, but whats the difference besides Jones from this team and the 2014 World Cup?

The US didnt look this out matched playing Germany, Portugal or Belgium

Sure they did, Howard played out of his mind to keep them alive in those games. The US has never had the talent they have had the goalies and scrappiness to get them by. Klinsman is right that they need to take it to the next level to be a world class team but right now I'm not seeing that next 11, it's still Dempsey who is their best player and Guzan is not a world class GK. The athletic ability is there, world class players aren't. Klinsman will likely keep his job but he's got a tough road to keep it beyond 2018.

Ivan · Jun 21, 2016

AzorianPats said:
Hes a player man! Along with Dempsey and Howard my fav American player

Dempsey is the greatest field player in US history, the GKs have been world class until now.

AzorianPats · Jun 21, 2016

Ivan said:
Sure they did, Howard played out of his mind to keep them alive in those games. The US has never had the talent they have had the goalies and scrappiness to get them by. Klinsman is right that they need to take it to the next level to be a world class team but right now I'm not seeing that next 11, it's still Dempsey who is their best player and Guzan is not a world class GK. The athletic ability is there, world class players aren't. Klinsman will likely keep his job but he's got a tough road to keep it beyond 2018.

Not this outclassed though Ivan. Agreed Howard saved them that WC, but the US looked like the belonged.

Tonight not so much.

SHOWTIME15 · Jun 21, 2016

AzorianPats said:
Hes a player man! Along with Dempsey and Howard my fav American player

altidore would help

AzorianPats · Jun 21, 2016

Im gonna get killed for this, but I think the issue might be, and someone please correct me if im wrong, but i heard the front 6 (4MF, 2FW) are all current MLS players..

MLS is a growing league, and its better today than it was yesterday, and tomorrow will be even better, but the US would be better off having these guys playing in the big European leagues.

Your seeing a real expensive game of monkey in the middle right now...

With all that, soccer is a tricky game sometimes. One good bounce could switch momentum right back to the US

IcyPatriot · Jun 21, 2016

TommyBrady12 said:
altidore would help

The dropoff from Altidore to Wondo is like Ty Law to Earthwind Moreland.
Jurgen should have Pulisic in there ... he's the future right now.

Ivan · Jun 21, 2016

AzorianPats said:
Not this outclassed though Ivan. Agreed Howard saved them that WC, but the US looked like the belonged.

Tonight not so much.

Belgium pounded them and barely escaped, same with Portugal. I'm really not sure what Klinsman is looking at for the 2018 WC but they need young players to both assert themselves and show the ability to play in a WC setting, and that's a tall order.

Observer · Jun 21, 2016

borg said:
It's a DNA thing. Americans just don't possess the soccer gene.
Until the Dion Lewis' and Malcolm Butlers and Barry Sanders type athletes with superior quickness skip past football and start playing soccer, the USA will never elevate. Even then, the DNA just won't be there for generations.

Icy Patriot…I agree with your midfield assessment and USA Soccer's decrees of alignment. My kid's travel team had to forego creative alignments that produced wins because USA Soccer had their development beliefs. Hence ….ZERO CREATIVITY>>>USA STYLE.

Soccer is life in other countries that produce top talent. EVERYBODY plays it throughout life. I think the US doesn't have the culture yet for world class style and talent but they have been making up for that by trying to win on physicality.

borg · Jun 21, 2016

Just thankful to watch Messi in HD. Most La Liga games are on BEIN Sports ….aka…..SD….sucky definition

borg · Jun 21, 2016

Observer said:
Soccer is life in other countries that produce top talent. EVERYBODY plays it throughout life. I think the US doesn't have the culture yet for world class style and talent but they have been making up for that by trying to win on physicality.

American kids play for 45 minutes and get a juice cup. The Latinos live the game

OT: (edit) COPA Finals - Argentina vs Chile !!!

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