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On a broader note, I'd like to take this opportunity to touch on the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect, as described by Michael Crichton:

Media carries with it a credibility that is totally undeserved. You have all experienced this, in what I call the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. (I call it by this name because I once discussed it with Murray Gell-Mann, and by dropping a famous name I imply greater importance to myself, and to the effect, than it would otherwise have.)

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I’d point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all.

But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn’t. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.

I think that generally, we've all pretty well come to the understanding that media has no inherent credibility. As a broad statement, we've kinda gotten over the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. Years of being subjected to blowhards like Felger, Shaughnessy, and Borges will do that to anyone. If they can make it in big media, then big media is a joke, full stop.

But if this last year has taught me anything, it's that the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect isn't limited to media. It extends to the NFL, to politics, to the American public at large, and as made clear today, to federal court. Remember how incompetent the majority was in today's ruling the next time anyone tries to cite a legal ruling as being valid or reasonable in of itself as an appeal to authority. These clowns in federal court don't necessarily have a rational basis for anything they do; they're equally as capable of intellectual bankruptcy/general stupidity as Roger Goodell.

Now that this fact has been so colorfully demonstrated for us, be sure to remember it. Don't revert back to assuming that there's any rational basis for anything that these people decide in the future. There is no justice or reason to be found in federal court; it's just another venue for incompetent clowns to make the rules as they go.
 
I think the law is a bit of a jumble in this area, and I think reasonable minds can, and have, arrived at different conclusions.


Paul Clement lies to them, they knew it and did nothing, and they repeatedly cited lies as though they were facts in their questioning and decision. That's lame sloppy **** and although I can't prove it I would be willing to bet that anti Patriots bias permeated their clerks. That they would be so shoddy worth big money and a great athletes reputation is disgraceful? And although it certainly lacks the gravity of the MAKING OF A MURDERER case to me the dishonesty and lack of integrity and ethics remind me of it completely. The American justice system is a caricature of what it was intended to be and that's a goddamn shame.
 
Go full defamation suit. Against the NFL and maybe even Goodell personally. Prior to this appeals ruling, assuming he would win it, I would have agreed with Brady that he just wanted to put this all behind him and not make more noise. But now there's nothing to lose.
I can't see Tom opening himself up to discovery. I don't think he wants to experience that.

So how about the organization quietly setting up the Dorito Dinks to file theirs instead?
 
Go full defamation suit. Against the NFL and maybe even Goodell personally. Prior to this appeals ruling, assuming he would win it, I would have agreed with Brady that he just wanted to put this all behind him and not make more noise. But now there's nothing to lose.

go out like scarface guns blazing.
 
I wish I could mark this poster at ChiefsPlanet.com a winner (not interested in joining them - just lurking)

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For me, this further damages the tatters of integrity left in the game.

There's a rule against ball tampering and a penalty for breaking the rule. IF Brady was involved (and I've seen nothing that convinces me that the balls were altered at all, much less that Brady was involved), he should pay his share of the fine that is the penalty for this offense and that should be the end of it.

I find it shameful that fans of other teams would rather see a successful team unjustly penalized than see the rules enforced.

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This is all so stupid. Dude gets suspended 4 games for allegedly deflating balls and other players get like two games for beating women (if it isn't covered up) and DUIs which is attempted murder in its own right basically. The NFL is ****ed up. The no integrity league.
 
This is where the "other 31" that Bob loves can come into play. The NFL got their victory, the other owners are thrilled, and if Brady drops his appeal then it becomes certified as precedent and the deflate gate finally put behind them. There have been many reports about how many owners, while supporting Goodell's suspension and happy to see Kraft get screwed, were not happy with how this played out and made the league office look, including all the media attention. If those owners want, and if there are enough of them, they can go to Goodell and tell him, "We won, but now you need to end this immediately. We don't give a crap about guilt, we want this behind us now that we've had our authority confirmed. 2 games, no admission of guilt, and we're done."

Maybe I'm hitting the crack pipe, but I don't think that's a far fetched scenario. We'll see.

One would think that would be the most sensible scenario, but in a world where TWO US JUDGES sleepwalked through a 2nd circuit appeals case and sided with the NFL and a world where Deflategate was and is a actual, real life thing, I can't see it happening.

I just find it simply incredible that this entire "scandal" is an actual event in history.

This entire country is at rockbottom level of stupidity for egging on all of this just so a winning sports figure and genuinely good human being who other's hate out of jealousy, can get his reputation slightly damaged.

And now that US court system has gotten in on the "stupid". Wonderful.
 
Gonna be real nauseating when you hear all the mediots going on about how he lost and needs to drop it and accept the 4 games. Yet didn't hear any of those ****wads saying it when Berman ruled against the nfl and they appealed

If you go to the ESPN website, Skip Baseless makes an impassioned defense for TB.
 
Hmm...interesting...

Brady, NFLPA should definitely pursue a rehearing before the full Second Circuit

First, a source with knowledge of the Second Circuit procedures tells PFT that a request for rehearing (which must be filed if at all within 14 days) operates as an automatic stay of the suspension. It means that Brady, if a petition for rehearing is filed, would have his suspension held in abeyance until, at the earliest, the Second Circuit decides not to conduct a rehearing and, at the latest, until the rehearing is resolved with another ruling against Brady and the NFLPA.
 
Gonna be real nauseating when you hear all the mediots going on about how he lost and needs to drop it and accept the 4 games. Yet didn't hear any of those ****wads saying it when Berman ruled against the nfl and they appealed

Yeah, they mask it as them being "tired of this story", then want Brady to take the 4 games so "it can all be over and we can get back to football". Well, kill that noise. They want a war, they got one now.
 
Can someone explain to me why the Feds can't break into a terrorist's iPhone, but the NFL can break into Brady's phone?

Presumably brady would give them access to it if required
 
how long would it take them to decide not to rehear it?? a month?

watching around the horn, bill plaschke ( la times ) " brady will always be remembered as a cheat " sad but true...the legacy is forever tarnished thanks to goodell and the 32 owners.
I was watching. That Plaschke just established himself as one of the grand king mother******s on the planet.
 
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I love my patriots so much, but now I hate the NFL in the same proportion. I'm so tired of this, anxiously waiting all these months for the next season to begin and getting excited with offseason moves, only to have to deal with this garbage again. I'm still gonna follow the games because I love the pats too much and I just can't not watch, but I feel like a clown for doing it. I'm really saddened by this news.
 
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