Tom Brady suspended again

PP2 · Apr 25, 2016

reflexblue said:
I assume Brady will appeal the appeal.

Next stop would be Supreme Court via writ of certiorari, but a petition for certiorari seeks Supreme Court review not as a matter of right but as a matter of judicial discretion.

On top of that, they get hundreds of requests every year, and pick and choose just a handful, and this, AFAIK, would be the first sports-related case, and if picked, might cause backlash because there are far more pressing issues for the SC to deal with than something to do with sports.

ctpatsfan77 · Apr 25, 2016

Offered without comment.

Pat the Pats Fan · Apr 25, 2016

well, I think I will be cancelling sunday ticket....

JetFan79 · Apr 25, 2016

pazrul72 said:
Ok I heard conflicting things...this is utter ********! I at least had hope that they had remanded it to Berman so he could go after the other poison pills he did not rule on. Mind boggling just absolutely unreal that they ruled you can use One word in a text from 8 months before an incident happened from ANOTHER person to find Someone guilty of that's what you bargined "in good faith". The NFL has proven beyond any question they are soul-less power-hungry immoral lying scum that should never ever for any reason be trusted a micrometer.

Right, I think that's what Berman intended. But supposedly this ruling kills any hope of that. The 2nd Circuit ruled on all the open issues.

Sounds like it's Supreme Court or bust.

SHOWTIME15 · Apr 25, 2016

Chief judge katzmann may have some influence to get the entire 2nd circuit to the case. He's only 1 vote but he could persuade some of the others....

Bradyking12 · Apr 25, 2016

Can Brady reappeal?

JetFan79 · Apr 25, 2016

BTW, Fitz is available.

ctpatsfan77 · Apr 25, 2016

PP2 said:
Next stop would be Supreme Court via writ of certiorari, but a petition for certiorari seeks Supreme Court review not as a matter of right but as a matter of judicial discretion.

On top of that, they get hundreds of requests every year, and pick and choose just a handful, and this, AFAIK, would be the first sports-related case, and if picked, might cause a big backlash.

I'm hazy on the details, but the concept of free agency was born of a Supreme Court decision.

Also, there's one more level below the Supreme Court—en banc review by the circuit court.

Patsfanin Philly · Apr 25, 2016

ESPN links to the decision but not the dissent.. F them....

http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisio...d672afb-6d71-415c-b3d6-b7454d92e139/1/hilite/

the complete 42 page decision with dissent.-

The ESPN link with 33 pages omitting the dissent

http://a.espncdn.com/pdf/2016/0425/BradyRulingReversed.pdf

DefenseRules said:
Why do you put yourself through the hell of tuning into that station? NO Pats fan should EVER WATCH THAT FILTHY STATION AGAIN!

I clicked a link in this thread.... don't watch them..

luuked · Apr 25, 2016

PP2 said:
Next stop would be Supreme Court via writ of certiorari, but a petition for certiorari seeks Supreme Court review not as a matter of right but as a matter of judicial discretion.

On top of that, they get hundreds of requests every year, and pick and choose just a handful, and this, AFAIK, would be the first sports-related case, and if picked, might cause backlash because there are far more pressing issues than something to do with sports.

It is not a sports related issue but labor law. Just because the industry where the issue occurred turned out to be professional sports doesnt make it any more or less important.

BradyFTW! · Apr 25, 2016

luuked said:
It just reinforces that in the current climate you have to put _everything_ in writing and don't assume anything anymore no matter how reasonable your assumptions are. The CBA itself would be not that bad under a somewhat reasonable commissioner and a climate where both parties (NFL and NFLPA) are not in a constant cold war.

It really sucks.

I think at this point, any labor union has to assume that it will exist in a perpetual state of open war with management. That seemed pretty clear before now, but this pretty much codifies it. Have to fight for every scrap, and assume that every concession that isn't explicitly granted to you will be interpreted against you in the worst possible way. This only changes if the next SC justice is a pro-labor progressive, which I don't see happening.

RobertWeathers · Apr 25, 2016

Welcome to North Korea, folks.

Patsfanin Philly · Apr 25, 2016

sb1 said:
Which is why this could be interesting to SCOTUS should team Brady choose to go that route. I don't think it will go that far though.

I think this decision makes a defamation suit more likely. It may be the only way Brady can clear his name in the court of public opinion, outside NE....among the great unwashed illiterate masses....

luuked · Apr 25, 2016

BradyFTW! said:
I think at this point, any labor union has to assume that it will exist in a perpetual state of open war with management. That seemed pretty clear before now, but this pretty much codifies it. Have to fight for every scrap, and assume that every concession that isn't explicitly granted to you will be interpreted against you in the worst possible way. This only changes if the next SC justice is a pro-labor progressive, which I don't see happening.

Yep. It's kinda sad but I guess this is where we live now and most probably have already been living for the last 15 years.

BradyFTW! · Apr 25, 2016

TommyBrady12 said:
Chief judge katzmann may have some influence to get the entire 2nd circuit to the case. He's only 1 vote but he could persuade some of the others....

Sounds like that's Brady's best bet. I hear en banc appeals are rare, but having the chief judge as the dissenting opinion might elevate the chances of this happening?

Franchise12 · Apr 25, 2016

I believe we've witnessed the league's recourse for when well run teams defy the league's system of parity.

PP2 · Apr 25, 2016

ctpatsfan77 said:
Also, there's one more level below the Supreme Court—en banc review by the circuit court.

Didn't know about that, thanks.

JetFan79 · Apr 25, 2016

Bradyking12 said:
Can Brady reappeal?

Only to Supreme Court I think. Which probably wouldn't be accepted.

Second Circuit slams door on Judge Berman scrapping Brady suspension again

Edit: Supposedly there is one more option before Supreme Court.

SHOWTIME15 · Apr 25, 2016

BradyFTW! said:
Sounds like that's Brady's best bet. I hear en banc appeals are rare, but having the chief judge as the dissenting opinion might elevate the chances of this happening?

I'm not sure what the rule is for the entire 2nd circuit to take an en banc hearing. In the supreme court all you need is 4 votes....

ANGR89 · Apr 25, 2016

am I the only one who wants Brady to be totally immature going forward, by that I mean no fake niceness to Goddell or his people, I mean I would love to see him tell Goddell where to go but I know that won't happen. so my only hope since this seems to be a done deal is that they at least go 2-2 while he's gone and than light it up when he gets back, nevernie take foot off the gas pedal, run up the score and big FU to the league. so frustrated!,

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