Patriots 'part ways' with OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo

Decent job in first year but the Patriots haven't been able to run consistently for 2 years (other than Dion Lewis' brilliance. Even when opposing D's have gone lighter in the box to counter the passing threat, the effectiveness was satisfactory.

mrscruff said:

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Oh yeah, Ferentz is another good guy to keep in mind. I assume it'd be tough to pry him from his dad's program after a 12-2 season, though.

ensoul said:

Maybe I don't understand the whole oline coach but don't isn't the players job simply just to block the guy in front of him? How can a better coach help this guy's from being turnstiles?

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There's a ton of other stuff like techniques and the mental game with blitzes.

PittPatriot said:

We loved him last season. He lost both starting tackles. I didn't think Googs was going to Canton for his work this year, but I wonder what got him "let go."
His line looked phenomenal at home last week.

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Line did look good last week. Pretty sure Miguel tweeted pats had 4 different starting right tackles, 2 different starting right guards, 2 centers, 3 left guards and 4 left tackles. Some guys were playing positions they have never played before

Triumph said:

Cannon should go with him.

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I read this somewhere:

They hoped Cannon got the chance to shake Von Miller's hand after the game cause they would hate for Cannon to leave town without putting his hands on Miller.

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Maybe I'm alone, but I find this move really surprising. People have short memories: by the end of last season we are all pretty high on Googe for being able to make do with a crappy unit. I get it, it only got worse this year, but there was a ton of injuries, and the constant revolving door is a lose-lose situation... I also don't know if blaming the regression of Stork is enough either. Are we throwing Chad O'Shea under the bus for LaFell? Did we kill Boyer for the way the CBs played until the Talib/Revis era?

Call me crazy, but outside of Dean Pees (who per Howe may have left on his own accord?) this move feels so unusual for NE that I wonder if there was an edict from "above" that heads had to roll for yesterday's failure. Also, this too is pure conjecture, but I wonder if McDaniels and Googe did not see eye to eye through the course of the season.

Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe 4m4 minutes ago
I can't even think of the last time the Patriots fired a coach.

Possible that bad coaching played a factor in the injuries, too? As in these guys were not synchronized, getting in each other's way, allowing the guy next to them to get hit on the blindside, and/or guys trying to cover for someone else's mistake injuring themselves with bad angles? Just too many ruh-roh moments?

Wrath Mania said:

Maybe I'm alone, but I find this move really surprising. People have short memories: by the end of last season we are all pretty high on Googe for being able to make do with a crappy unit. I get it, it only got worse this year, but there was a ton of injuries, and the constant revolving door is a lose-lose situation... I also don't know if blaming the regression of Stork is enough either. Are we throwing Chad O'Shea under the bus for LaFell? Did we kill Boyer for the way the CBs played until the Talib/Revis era?

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It's not going to be just results. The HC will see everthing; how the techniques are taught, the personality, communication, being in sync with other coaches, etc.

My prediction is Dante Scarnecchia is going to come out of retirement.

Mike Garafolo ✔ @MikeGarafolo
He was telling friends for a few weeks he feared he might be out of a job. This wasn't a one-day deal. https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/691775234161152000…

mrscruff said:

Decent job in first year but the Patriots haven't been able to run consistently for 2 years (other than Dion Lewis' brilliance. Even when opposing D's have gone lighter in the box to counter the passing threat, the effectiveness was satisfactory.

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They couldn't pass protect when 3 vs 5......They couldn't run when 3 vs 5....Instead.....they were mauled

betterthanthealternative said:

Bill Callahan.

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Mr. We have the dumbest team in America?

wasn't googs fault, the players didn't " do their job " in fact, must of them sucked. mason only allowed one pressure everyone else was bad. kline/cannon fodder and vollmer were disasters.

Wrath Mania said:

Mike Garafolo ✔ @MikeGarafolo
He was telling friends for a few weeks he feared he might be out of a job. This wasn't a one-day deal. https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/691775234161152000…

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obviously BB was not happy with the performance of the o-line during the season. I wonder if BB chewed him out on a few occassions. maybe goog saw the writing on the wall and didn't coach yesterday with 100% effort?

Feel bad for GOOG
But I want to see what changes are made no way Mcdaniels leaves.
If he left and his new offense struggled hed never have a hc job

BelichickFan said:

Obviously there were issues this year, didn't see it coming. Bill rarely fires coaches. Good to see he's doing what he has to do.

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He has a history of being a douchebag... very abrasive personality.

TommyBrady12 said:

obviously BB was not happy with the performance of the o-line during the season. I wonder if BB chewed him out on a few occassions. maybe goog saw the writing on the wall and didn't coach yesterday with 100% effort?

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That would piss me the eff off.
If Googs cost us a superbowl by sabotaging us.

TommyBrady12 said:

obviously BB was not happy with the performance of the o-line during the season. I wonder if BB chewed him out on a few occassions. maybe goog saw the writing on the wall and didn't coach yesterday with 100% effort?

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I don't think it's fair to assume he cashed in yesterday. I do think it's very likely there was some friction on the coaching staff. Or maybe Googe just wasn't getting it done the way BB wanted it done (but again, could anyone have gotten it done with this unit?).

All this aside, this is definitely a signal that BB knows the offensive line was an embarrassment this year, and that fixing it is going to be a priority. So that's good.

Brady6 said:

My prediction is Dante Scarnecchia is going to come out of retirement.

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I am not sure if he would be interested but I would welcome him with open arms.

BB did not sound too pi$$ed off in yesterday's presser. Maybe he knew getting shellacked was coming.