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Asking for your support
 

Should QBs get to throw the ball any way they like it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 70.1%
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If I find out that this was over a single football being taken in for investigation Bob Kravitz better hope I never run across him in person because it wont be the karma that is hitting him hard.

Unless that would be karma?


yes yes it would


no problem with it what so ever
 
If only one ball was taken it should be a non issue, the only way this would help would be if they got all the balls done the same.

It essentially confirms it was the non-issue Dean Blandino made it out to be about 12 hours ago when he said he happens regularly and the ball gets investigated every time.

Probably by the league to see what happened then by Wilson, for QA purposes.
 
If I find out that this was over a single football being taken in for investigation Bob Kravitz better hope I never run across him in person because it wont be the karma that is hitting him hard.

Unless that would be karma?

Let me know if you need help.
 
They taped opponent's hand signals which was against the rules at that point, and BB knew it. Videotaping hand signals in the NFL was, at that point, has been ever since and continues to be considered cheating. Not sure what is there to explain.
Boy, you got that one wrong. Kind of kills any shred of credibility you had left.
 
With Ian Rs reports and all coming out tonight, seems this thing is finally being exposed for what it is...a joke.
 
So the truth finally comes out about the Pats ability to win:

"Ive heard from reliable sources that the Pats have tiny little microphones imbedded all through the fields turf so that they can listen in to the opposing Qbs play calling. They pump sedative like gas into their opponents locker room to make them groggy before game time. They hire the maids at the opponents hotel to put down itchy sheets so that they can not get a good nights sleep. They have an attendant sneak in and replace all their opponents uniforms with ones 1 size smaller so that they can not move as freely. The Pats have been given shoes for their receivers and running backs from aliens which makes them quicker and harder to tackle. Those #$%$ patriots and bilicheat.........no wonder nobody can beat them"
:D:D


That's one of the comments. Comments are much better than the article.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/did-england-patriots-really-cheat-way-super-bowl-222011963.html
 
here is a wow article...
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/19/new-england-patriots-deflategate-bill-belichick-tom-brady

but i cant hate on this guy when our own fans are capable of writign this as i found out on this thread today
Haven't posted on here in ages, but I have been lurking a bit off and on.

This stuff makes my blood boil. It's a non-story, the colts got their asses kicked AGAIN. PV=NRT, but the clowns at the league off will let this be the point of discussion for this first week of pre-super bowl coverage. It gives them a tabloid fairy tale to discuss because God knows they can't discuss any real X and Os for 2 weeks.

By the way WTF is this guy talking about with the TV in the plaza? Can you really see it on the Patriots sideline? The TV basically faces the visitors sideline. What a clown. I'm going to go dispose of my computer after giving him a click.

Go Pats, hope we win the Super Bowl and it comes out that Belichick was deflating balls with a bicycle pump so the haters can cry more.
 
I am laughing hard because this is funny and painful at the same time. So much misinformation out there. Nobody knows anything, and I suspect the league might not even know what they are investigating. This may be an impulse reaction from the league based on their handling of the Ray Rice situation. They want to make sure nothing catches them by surprise by seeing what the fallout will be.
What pains me is the ignorance being spoken and written. How do people speak or write without knowing the mechanism behind ball handling? I know how it works, but my head hurts to try and write it as it will be lost among the noise.
 
Well, at least we know what the front page headline in the Boston Herald will be on SuperBowl Sunday:

PATRIOTS DEFLATED GAME BALLS IN 2001 SUPERBOWL WIN OVER THE RAMS!
 
Well, at least we know what the front page headline in the Boston Herald will be on SuperBowl Sunday:

PATRIOTS DEFLATED GAME BALLS IN 2001 SUPERBOWL WIN OVER THE RAMS!

The NFL has to step in and end this quickly. They are doing a disservice to the Pats, to their fans, to the Super Bowl and to themselves by allowing this to fester and grow like this. This HAS to be resolved this week. It's weighing some footballs for Pete's sake! This is the NFL, not the WWE!
 
You know, in real life, if you falsely accuse someone of rape you can get in serious trouble.

The NFL should employ a similar set of rules so teams can't just accuse us of cheating every time they get their ass kicked. Accuse another team of cheating and be wrong and lose a draft pick for tarnishing the league's integrity.

This crap would end real fast

To be fair, I don't think the Colts have made any accusations.
 
Ian Rapport says that it appears that just one ball was taken. It really sucks that this topic is taking away from talking about an epic SB matchup.

Imagine if this whole thing is over a single freaking ball.

AND very possibly a ball that did not take part in a single play.
 
Yeah all that is nice, but no interpretation needed to be made dude. You were not allowed. They sent out memos. It was considered cheating. He did it anyway. Pretty cut and dry. BB doesn't get to interpret that rule how he wants, and do it anyway. If you believe that, so be it. I'm sure you will have no problem saying the same thing about this if this mess turns out to be true, that BB interpreted as he wished and it was legal.
If it was illegal by rule then you wouldn't need to remove the whole part about "use during the game" to make your case. It's not BB who's using gray area to interpret something that isn't there. The rule:
"No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game"

Since we know for a fact that games are taped, the fairly obvious interpretation would be that those tapes cannot be used as it says "during the game". In fact we know damn well that coaches can, and do watch game film all week, so the operative phrase MUST be "during the game." Or damned if every cameraman in the NFL isn't breaking the rule. It would also be very odd for that phrase to be written into the rule, but expect coaches to know to ignore the phrase. This still happens today:

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In fact this 60 minutes interview with BB and John Fox in 2004 about the technology for filming, and storing plays confirms that coaches interpreted the rule just like BB.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-secret-of-their-nfl-success-16-09-2004/
NFL teams have more software engineers today than water boys. The Patriots, the Panthers -- every team spends millions on special video player-super-computers that allow every coach to scout every opponent's every move.

But Fox goes on to explain the rule on tapes during game day.
"We can't use any of this system on game day," says Fox. "They still want the human element. By game day, the coaches have crammed so many details into their brains and onto their clipboards that they themselves are walking computers."

Maybe after misinterpreting this rule on national television to the entire world the NFL should have put out a memo that said Fox was wrong, you can't use this stuff ever! Nope, the NFL forgot to do that. Strange how they keep making mistakes like that. Let's go over the mistakes:

They meant to put a period right before the term "during the game"- but forgot somehow accidentally changing the meaning of the rule to limit use of tape to only during the game.

They forgot to remove the term "during the game" from the rule.

They forgot to correct BB and Fox about their national television interpretation snafu.

Hell, they even forgot to go ahead and clean up that mistake at the competition committee meeting in 2004, 2005, and 2006 despite coaches openly telling them they think it only applies to game time... on national television.

That NFL sure is forgetful. Obviously BB should have known that what really mattered was what Goodell had in his head, not what's in the rulebook.

Who is taking more liberties? The person who thinks the rule means "during the game" as it literally says, and announces on national television what that means. Or you, who are claiming that it's okay to ignore the actual wording of the rule to invent a new interpretation. To ignore not only the literal meaning of the words, but the precedent of teams following the literal meaning, and stating quite clearly what that interpretation means?

Everyone must be wrong except Goodell. It was super clear, they just forgot to put it in words, forgot to put it in the rule book, and forgot to correct coaches announcing the meaning on national television.
 
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I know right after a colts kickoff the refs switched a ball before the patriots drive. The commentator said it was or might have been because it was the ball that was used on the kickoff, it was a ball specifically for kickoffs.
 


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