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    Speculation: McDaniels to the Raiders nearly done. [Confirmed DONE1/31/22]

    McDaniels was a good OC. He will be missed. I liked to see a young guy with good ideas get gig instead of an older guy like BOB.. I think the league kinda figures out guys after a while.. So a new coach can really shake things up.
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    Tom Brady throwing coach Tom House assesses Mac

    Brady is bigger I think 1.75 inches is about right - his arm is better as well.. Mac has more speed and some acceleration with regards to the lower body. I think Drew Brees is the best case comparison with Mac. We should hire one of his offense coordinators to replace McD. Problem for Mac -...
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    Tom Brady throwing coach Tom House assesses Mac

    It's not amazing at all. The narrative was that Mac lacked elite physical talent to develop into a high end NFL QB - but was a smart kid who knows how to play and would have a high floor. They might be wrong but Mac has not really altered the narrative. It's like in the NBA when a team...
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    Tom Brady throwing coach Tom House assesses Mac

    Weak arm - average arm - not really quantified. Why? Well a weak NFL arm is still better then 90% of college QB arms. An average arm is vague - average for NFL starters or all NFL QBs? It might well be average if you factor in all backups - remember some teams go 3 deep. It's not Mac bashing...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    Not this again. Yes people rarely make 80 yard passes. But Josh Allen was making them on his pro day to show off his arm strength. Arm strength is directly related to how far you can throw the ball. This is basic physics. Same with Mac. They need to prove they have an NFL arm so they launch...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    This big part of why Brady was so pissed off. Not to go too off track is people read Brady all wrong. He totally believes in his athletic ability and always has. He didn't try to game the combine like most other guys did because he was so full of confidence. Most guys coming up actually...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    Great post. I like Mac. The guy did a great job and Josh did well giving him options that he could make. Maybe Mac can add some zip in the offseason and make it harder for DBs and Safeties to punish him after he makes the throw. It's going to be fun to find out. And if he does improve -...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    You totally skipped physics class didn't you? LMAO. Give it up. Brady's arm was never weak. Scouts don't give a flying **** about some guy projected to go in the sixth round. Most never saw the guy play. Because Mac Jones was projected to go as high as 3 - they watched his pro day - they...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    He won the long throw contest in 2003. It doesn't really matter what you see..now does it? Throwing velocity is an objective measurement.
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    Again there was not some universal consensus that Brady had a weak arm. ESPN called Mac Jones a "statue". Mac Jones is not a statue. Some scouts are good - some are hacks.
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    There is a reason why NFL GMs look for guys with big arms. Right or wrong - they understand that throwing is an athletic event. And while certainly people can improve their athleticism - there is a limit that depends on your frame and genetics and so on. For example Tom Brady claims to have...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    The maximum distance the ball travels is related to the velocity it has when the ball leaves the hand and the launch angle. Josh wasn't making those throws because he needs to make them in the game - he was doing to prove he can create very high velocity throws. And please stop with the...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    When people talk about arm strength - they mean throwing velocity - which is a complicated kinetic chain of events starting from the ground and ending in internal shoulder rotation. All these muscles must be fired in a particular manner to elicit maximal velocity. When people talk about a big...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    I think you underestimate the task ahead of Mac. Josh Allen was throwing 80 yard bombs on his pro day - Mac was airing it out too - but for around 60 yards. I suspect that Josh's arm (guesstimate) is around 20% better then Mac. That is say Mac was a pitcher he would throw around 80-85 mph and...
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    Question on improving Mac's arm strength

    When you have more physical talent - you don't have to be as perfect on the mental side of things. A QB without a strong arm has less throws he can hit. The defense knows this and will scheme to funnel Mac's throws to particular spots. So a weaker arm makes is easier on the defense and harder...

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