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Yet they sucked under Bledsoe, quarterback is the most important position in football, there’s not much of a debate.
They sucked without all the other players they brought in.
Exactly. Again, without the massive edge, we'd have to listen to the talking heads debate how great of a player Brady really was. You can argue that he may have potentially won multiple championships with somebody else, but I think it's highly doubtful he would have won six. I mean, Payton had Brees, Dungy had Manning, etc. Even great QBs can't overcome bad coaching in critical moments. We've already seen that to be proven true enough to know that.
Efficient offense helps the defense, you don’t like analytics because it paints a picture you don’t want to see. It’s why you’ll use passing yards to discredit the offensive improvement.
I don’t like “analytics” because they are misused by people like you, as you did here.
Of course Brady made the team better, but he was a piece. It is ignorant to dismiss the other 52 players (and coaches) and the play of all the additions and say, as you have, it was essentially all Brady. They upgraded 6 other offensive positions and you literally said Brady had more to do with winning than all 6 combined plus the improvement in the defense.
No I didn’t, that’s the narrative you are trying to spin this into. I can accuse you of using a yardage stat to call the offense trash. I simply showed you the passing offense was very good. The rushing DVOA in 01 was 14th up from 27th. The passing game is always and will always be more important than the running game.
Sure, and it randomly all clicked when the quarterback change was made. And then un clicks in years he’s not the qb. I know what it tells me
It wasn’t random it was one of the biggest roster overhauls in nfl history.
I think I answered it but going back to your original question...Does it matter? Because the question involved other coaches…so…?
It's definitely possible. He won a 7th elsewhere (at age 43), the Patriots had a championship drought in the prime of Brady's career (certainly Bill should have gotten more out of that timeframe and I think other head coaches would have as well), and the Patriots left more championships on the table (2015 and 2017).
Well, he won 7, so 6 doesn't seem implausible had he played for examples Indianapolis or Pittsburgh.
Well, that's not entirely truthful. The context of the final season in Cleveland is overplayed to excuse away Bill completely losing his team... they were 2-10 after September (the move was announced in November), they were bad on offense and defense, and they went 4-12 the following season in Baltimore. I call that trending down.
And actually it all “clicked” after losing to the Rams when the defense allowed 17 or less 9 straight games.
You said they were 22nd in passing in 2001, based off what?
This is your opinion, which cannot be proven, what is proven is that they sucked under Bledsoe
I do, he did his job in 2001 very well, and was a major factor in why they won the Super Bowl.
They were 5-2 before that game w/Brady. 0-2 before Brady started. I’d say it clicked right around the time bledsoe got caved in
LOL!!! "Just a piece"... that's ****ing outrageous! The god damn team was 5-13 with Bledsoe and Belichick. With Brady they went 14-3 and won the Super Bowl on a game-winning drive from the quarterback. Get real, brother.
In 2016 they played buffalo with a rookie 3rd string QB with a throwing hand injury who would not have played if there was anyone else.
They were 5-3 in Brady’s first 8 games. Clicking is when you close out 9-0 not when you are 5-3.
The roster that was 5-11 in 2000 and the roster then won the SB the next year were as different as maybe there ever has been in the NFL.
No dummy, the 49ers literally had to go exclusively to their running game. In 2016 Brissett completed 17 of 27 pass attempts, he wasn't crippled, he wasn't any good. The game plan sucked, obviously, 0 points. Buffalo couldn't have shutout Brady blindfolded and throwing lefthanded.
No - it's highly unlikely. You have to just accept that.
Absolutely does. Again, both coaches had Manning and Roethlisberger respectively. And barely won two.
Also not accurate. They opened the season 3-1. And the rumors swirled internally long before it was announced officially.
They could have gone 5-11 or 8-8 if Bill was so terrible, but they didn't. And, they got shutout with a guy with an injured thumb at QB. The things you point out sometimes to make a point are so weird.
The guy who touches the ball every play, is the most important player on the team. And always will be
Guess you weren’t a fan yet. Brissett certainly was crippled, right up until kickoff people expected Edelman to play QB. Those 27 passes were screens and dump offs, he couldn’t grip the ball the throw downfield, and everyone knew it.
