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After reading all the shoddy science and inconsistencies in the Wells report and listening to Wells' press conference, I am confused as to the "preponderance of evidence" in this case.

When asked about the evidence during the press conference:

Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ
· 19h 19 hours ago
Wells keeps going back to McNally calling himself the deflator. "It is direct evidence."


Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ · 19h 19 hours ago
Wells kept talking about McNally calling himself the deflator &saying he would go to ESPN. He didn't reference the 16psi balls in Jets game

Keep in mind these texts were from May! It seems now that Wells built his entire case based on the word "deflator". In doing so, he enriched himself by millions of dollars by creating a lawyer-speak report based on his personal assumptions and beliefs, inconsistencies, and poor science.

Is there any other hard evidence in this case?
 
No.

McNally's job was to inflate and deflate footballs.

I guess if he called himself "the inflater" we would of been cleared of all wrong doing.

What's even more pathetic than this report is the fact that this nations founding fathers framed this nation and its constitution to defend its people from folks like 21st century Americans.

I can't believe so many millions consider this report anything other than an insult on their intelligence.
 
it's the texts coupled with the "lack of cooperation" by failing to produce mcnally and brady's phone that forced wells to say "gotcha.".
 
What I don't understand yet is when refs measure balls before game, are Pats equip guys with them, and if so are they allowed to make sure psi is where they want it?
 
I'm beginning to wonder if he even wrote that report. His report said he didnt have definitive proof but yesterday he said he would vote beyond reasonable doubt. Did they interview the wrong Ted Wells?
 
There's nice big juicy **** burger cooking on the grill now, and I can't wait until Wells and Goodell are forced to eat it.

The truth will set Brady & the Patriots free.
 
Aren't the balls prepped by McNally and J then handed to the refs? During the prepping process, M and J probably deflate to 12.5 thus the nickname "deflator". In this context completely legal. No where in the text messages can one conclude that the deflating comes AFTER refs check. Why is this point glossed over by everyone?
 
No.

McNally's job was to inflate and deflate footballs.

I guess if he called himself "the inflater" we would of been cleared of all wrong doing.

What's even more pathetic than this report is the fact that this nations founding fathers framed this nation and its constitution to defend its people from folks like 21st century Americans.

I can't believe so many millions consider this report anything other than an insult on their intelligence.

Actually, McNally doesn't prepare the footballs in any way which is why referencing himself as the deflator draws suspicion.
 
it's the texts coupled with the "lack of cooperation" by failing to produce mcnally and brady's phone that forced wells to say "gotcha.".

You mean an expectation of due process makes them guilty until proven innocent?
 
First, what evidence is there that refutes the idea that McNallys job is to deflate the balls DOWN TO 12.5 psi?
Someone is responsible for setting the psi before giving them to the refs. What evidence is there that the deflation in question is to below what is acceptable?

Second, McNally is a part time, game day employee, what is he talking about in May?

Third, after the Jets game Brady went and checked the rules on psi, and suggested they show them to the refs so the refs don't overinflate. If Brady was unaware of the rule, how was he aware of illegal deflating in May?
 
Actually, McNally doesn't prepare the footballs in any way which is why referencing himself as the deflator draws suspicion.

Do you know that?
Who gauges the balls before giving them to the refs?
 
I'm beginning to wonder if he even wrote that report.

Of course not. He's too senior for that.

Let's just hope that he at least read it.
 
Do you know that?
Who gauges the balls before giving them to the refs?

It would be quite bold to claim absolute knowledge of anything on this matter, but the roles and preparation process are in the report based on interviews with the parties involved along with other personnel and officials. Not a single person has refuted this information, which leads me to believe that it is indeed factual.

Jastremski prepares the balls all week, bringing them to their final stage including inflation level, at which point Brady comes and feels them and selects the 12 he wants to play with. After this point McNally takes the balls from Jastremski and brings them to the officials, reminding the officials that Brady likes them at 12.5.
 
First, what evidence is there that refutes the idea that McNallys job is to deflate the balls DOWN TO 12.5 psi?
Someone is responsible for setting the psi before giving them to the refs. What evidence is there that the deflation in question is to below what is acceptable?

Second, McNally is a part time, game day employee, what is he talking about in May?

Third, after the Jets game Brady went and checked the rules on psi, and suggested they show them to the refs so the refs don't overinflate. If Brady was unaware of the rule, how was he aware of illegal deflating in May?
Are there text messages about Brady checking the rules?
 
"To be fair, Brady's finger prints are literally all over the ball. Obviously that means he cheated." -Ted Wells
" in fact we have video evidence that Tom Brady was at the facility quite a lot between the months of May till December."

BURN HIM
 
You mean an expectation of due process makes them guilty until proven innocent?

in the NFL, yes. the problem is if you give goodell any reason to smack you, he will. the pats thought there was no "smoking gun." there doesn't have to be.
 
You've gotta wonder what he means when he says "deflator", but he is saying this in May 2014 when damn near zero football activities are going on. Then months later in October you've got messages saying the balls were overinflated to 16 PSI and Brady was just then learning the rules of proper inflation levels. If you consider both of these pieces of information, you would have to toss the "deflator" comment because Brady isn't even learning the rules and info about PSI for several more months.

Unless Wells is accusing Brady of taking a time machine and going back in time to May to instruct McNally on ball deflating, there's really no evidence at all here, let alone "direct evidence".
 
Are there text messages about Brady checking the rules?
Yes, there are a number of texts that refute any wrongdoing but Wells and the universe choose to only accept the incriminating ones. JJ texts balls were at 16 the next day. JJ texts balls should have been at 13. JJ texts Brady said bring the rule book to show refs the range. To me this points to incompetence on the refs parts of even malicious intent.
 
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