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That link has all 100 of the players.
Better yet does anyone care about this event?
Byron Jerideau ...NT 6'1" ... 340 ... can bench 500 and squat 670 ... not sure if he can play.
Adam Carriker is an interesting name. Former #13 overall. If his knee checks out, hmmm.......6-6 315
I'm rooting for Michael Sam. The weird thing about Sam is that right before the combine he was a 1st or 2nd round pick. His combine performance wasn't great, but most still had him as a mid-rounder, many as a 3rd rounder. Then he falls to the end of the 7th round and was probably only taken by fiat from Jeff Fisher (good for him) and is out of football within a year.
Yeah it's unfathomable that we fans and the media overrate a particular player.
He's "only" 30 but less wear and tear than his age with basically the last 3 years out (played 2 games in 2012), but was still on the 'Skins roster until march of last year. If he's kept himself in good shape, which as of 9 months ago he was and like I said, his knee checks out, might be worth it.He looked good in Washington's 3-4 before he got hurt. He always looked better as an end of the line player but the Rams kinda screwed him up and forced him inside. He could be a good reclamation project.
Sam was never a first or second round pick he had 4-5 grade pre combine and dropped to 6-7 after a horrible showing at the combine and his pro day.I'm rooting for Michael Sam. The weird thing about Sam is that right before the combine he was a 1st or 2nd round pick. His combine performance wasn't great, but most still had him as a mid-rounder, many as a 3rd rounder. Then he falls to the end of the 7th round and was probably only taken by fiat from Jeff Fisher (good for him) and is out of football within a year.
Like it or not, agree with it or don't Michael Sam much like Tebow has a following of media and fans that can be viewed as a distraction or at the very least an annoyance. So when you are an undersized and non athletic DE who is a liability in the run game there are many players that can do what you do for a team without the added previously stated associations.you can try and cloak yourself in that but the league is always trying to get pass rushers and thats what Sam does best, if you believe hes so terrible that despite his great performance in college and preseason that he was unworthy of a single workout then there probably isnt a way I can change your mind. I'm not sure if he is good enough to be on a 53 man roster, but I do know that he was undersized before he came out and that didnt stop scouts from projecting him as a 4th or 5th round guy. somehow after he's come out these concerns are too massive for him to even get
dude just call yourself a bigot and be done with it, stop trying to act like your something else or justify it as a "distraction". You don't want him to keep his personal life to himself you want him to lie, when a reporter asks him if he was gay you want him to say "no", there are players who are gay and they deserve the right to be honest because quite frankly being gay isn't that big of a deal, but all these players just saw Sam get blackballed because of his sexuality. Like it or not players have personal lives and they have every right to enjoy them, but people like you think its a bigger distraction that Sam is dating man than someone like Greg hardy beats his wife and then paid her off to get the charges dropped. If this was 1959 I think you would be one of the people trying to justify why your team ignored talented black players because having one would be a "distraction".Like it or not, agree with it or don't Michael Sam much like Tebow has a following of media and fans that can be viewed as a distraction or at the very least an annoyance. So when you are an undersized and non athletic DE who is a liability in the run game there are many players that can do what you do for a team without the added previously stated associations.
Michael Sam made a conscious decision to put his personal life on the map, I know I do not go to work and announce that I am straight and my gay friends don't send out mass emails notifying their co-workers of their sexual preference. Sam could have lived his life and just kept his personal life just that personal, **** if Aaron Hernandez can literally "dance" around smoking weed on sidewalks carrying guns and killing people I'm sure Michael Sam could have had all the homosexual relations he wanted without it being a public story.
The reality is when every other player was prepping for the combine, pro days, private workouts, etc. Sam was doing national interviews and building his notoriety. That shows to me that football was secondary to him being the Elton John of the NFL. All coaches want players that put football first, before their contracts, before their personal lives, etc. Sam has not done that so I'm not surprised he is without a team.
A bigot? One of my best friends for over a decade is gay and I have been to gay bars with him and had a great time so hop of your soap box and move on because you couldn't be any further off if you tried.dude just call yourself a bigot and be done with it, stop trying to act like your something else or justify it as a "distraction". You don't want him to keep his personal life to himself you want him to lie, when a reporter asks him if he was gay you want him to say "no", there are players who are gay and they deserve the right to be honest because quite frankly being gay isn't that big of a deal, but all these players just saw Sam get blackballed because of his sexuality. Like it or not players have personal lives and they have every right to enjoy them, but people like you think its a bigger distraction that Sam is dating man than someone like Greg hardy beats his wife and then paid her off to get the charges dropped. If this was 1959 I think you would be one of the people trying to justify why your team ignored talented black players because having one would be a "distraction".
Every time this guy has been in front of a mic he has said that football is his #1 priority and yet all anyone has asked him is what its like being a gay football player, i fail to see how that's his fault. With all the **** the NFL does I dont understand why its so hard for people to believe that Sam is getting blackballed.A bigot? One of my best friends for over a decade is gay and I have been to gay bars with him and had a great time so hop of your soap box and move on because you couldn't be any further off if you tried.
Greg Hardy is one of the premier pass rushers in the NFL and great against the run. I wouldn't sign him because he is a **** show but I can see why teams would.
Did anyone ask Edelman about the girl who blew up his spot on Tinder? Not one media outlet covered it, because he didn't broadcast it. I don't want him to lie, I want him to play football, I don't give a **** what he does in his free time and the fact he put that in the forefront makes me question his priorities and what his true motivation for playing football is.
A bigot? One of my best friends for over a decade is gay and I have been to gay bars with him and had a great time so hop of your soap box and move on because you couldn't be any further off if you tried.
Greg Hardy is one of the premier pass rushers in the NFL and great against the run. I wouldn't sign him because he is a **** show but I can see why teams would.
Did anyone ask Edelman about the girl who blew up his spot on Tinder? Not one media outlet covered it, because he didn't broadcast it. I don't want him to lie, I want him to play football, I don't give a **** what he does in his free time and the fact he put that in the forefront makes me question his priorities and what his true motivation for playing football is.
Where was he seen as a first or second round player? I never saw a mock that had him there. His combine was horrible, which dropped him even more. I absolutely think that he dropped a bit in the draft for various non-football reasons. But the drop wasn't as huge as some made it out to be.I'm rooting for Michael Sam. The weird thing about Sam is that right before the combine he was a 1st or 2nd round pick. His combine performance wasn't great, but most still had him as a mid-rounder, many as a 3rd rounder. Then he falls to the end of the 7th round and was probably only taken by fiat from Jeff Fisher (good for him) and is out of football within a year.
It's not an excuse, it's an actuality and before someone refers to someone as bigot they should have some basic understanding of who the person is and not just lob accusations because they don't agree with a view point."I have ____ friends" is like the oldest, dumbest excuse. Don't use it, you sound ridiculous.
Second, Tom Brady hits everyone over the head with how straight he is every time he posts a picture of himself and Gisele together on Facebook. This doesn't seem to bother you. If Sam had "kept quiet" as you said, and then posted on social media about he and his husband's wedding, there would have been a massive uproar and he still would have been dragged into the limelight. In other words, other than by lying and staying in the closet (which is very bad), he could naught have but made it political. So he made a calculated choice to come out publicly prior to the draft and seems to have been punished for it.
Having a gay friend does not make you not a bigot. Your comments do make you seem like one though.It's not an excuse, it's an actuality and before someone refers to someone as bigot they should have some basic understanding of who the person is and not just lob accusations because they don't agree with a view point.
How can you propose to know what the 'smart thing to do' is? Are you saying the smart thing to do was to hide who he is? I guess you feel he should have waited until after his career to get married? Or just hid that?I could give 2 ****s if Sam is gay but the reality is that his decision to be the poster boy for gay football players has led to a large media following that he is not good enough on the field to overcome. The smart thing would have been to say nothing at all and establish an NFL career and then make the announcement.
Did he tell you this? Perhaps he wanted to be himself and not lie about who he is and he thought people may be ready for that, after all, a lot have gay friends.....Sam wanted to be recognized as the first gay football player, and that carried this possibility and he knew that and still made a conscious decision to do it.
Tebow isn't Catholic.There is nothing bigotry about that, I'm sure Tebow would be on a roster if he didn't make himself the poster boy of the catholic religion.
Someday people will be able to be who they are and bigots like you will be laughed at for your intolerance.When you are a JAG at best and only have a 1-2% chance at making a NFL roster things like the amount of media attention you bring make a big difference, if Sam was as talented as Clowney he would be on a roster, but he is not so there are other players who can do what he does without the added media and public attention.