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Very plausible that Kraft wants to ruin his brand by cheating in stupid ways which don't have a logical way of even helping the team win. Have a great qb with huge hands throw ducks because the ball is underinflated. Brilliant.
Guilty unless proven otherwise.
Lets face facts. Goodell has had a vendetta against the Pats since the day he took office. He blew the camera gate situation out of proportion with the help of or because of the NYC media. He now has a ticklish situation involvimg his beloved Jets and what better way to alleviate the pressure than to feed the media a non story about the bad old Pats. Don't forget that Irsay owes the POS one from the lenient treatment he received after his incident involving controilled substances. Why Kraft continues to support the POS is beyond my comprehension.
Per Mike Reiss the league said they are investigating 'the matter'.Per Mike Reiss, that the NFL is investigating the Colt's allegations that the Patriots deflated the balls.
First of all it is Florio, and secondly, directly from the article you quoted:
In this specific case, the investigation will focus on whether the balls were properly weighed and measured by officials before the game started, whether anything happened while the balls were in the custody of the referee, and whether anything happened after the balls were given by the referee to the ball attendant.
They appear to be investigating the referees, and at this point it would seem they have not even determined how many balls were under inflated, if any were, and by how much
So it's the COLTS allegations. Well. That's certainly a trustworthy source!Per Mike Reiss, that the NFL is investigating the Colt's allegations that the Patriots deflated the balls.
Why would Goodell have a vendetta against the Patriots? Kraft is one of his biggest supporters and was one of the owners who pushed for a contract extension for Goodell. The Patriots is one of the marquee NFL franchises and tainting their accomplishments would look bad on the NFL as a whole. It would make the NFL product look bad. That theory makes no sense.
No it's not. Coincidence is not causation. And spy gate didn't help them win.Spygate ruined our brand? The Patriots have been getting even more rich since. The team's value has grown. The benefits of winning, even while punished for cheating, outweighed the repercussions.
That's just a fact.
He'll be even richer if we win this Superbowl, even if it turns out we cheated again, then if we would have lost honestly. He will sell more shirts, more hats, more gear, and people will buy them anyway, no matter what.
Please explain why Goodell penalized the Pats a first round draft pick for having a camera in the wrong location when the penalty for cheating on the cap by the Bronco's and 49ers was only a third round pick. Explain to me how the supposedly confidential tape got leaked to his wife's tv station. Explain to me what happened to the investigation of tape leak. Explain to me why the tapes were destroyed when the only thing that could be shown would be other teams doing the same thing. Explain to me how the Jets can trip a player in a game and only have a flunky receive punishment. When you can rationally explain these facts, then I will happily admit that you are the moral compass of the Pats you purport to be.I don't buy this at ALL and never have. Kraft is one of the most powerful owners in the NFL and we are now the 2nd most valuable franchise behind the Cowboys. Goodell would be out of a damn job, if he was constantly screwing over Kraft's team. Come on guys.
You get on a Jets forum, they say the same ****. That we have Goodell in our pocket. I't's getting silly. Goodell hates us. He loves the Ravens. He loves the Steelers. He loves the Jets. He loves Indy. He loves Peyton. He hates US.
This is fairy tales to make a fan feel better and that the commissioner is always in the OTHER guy's pocket. It's always the OTHER team getting favors. Never ours. We just always get screwed over.
It's a pretty typical way of dealing with these sorts of things, if you can't cope with it. Sometimes we are the victims, and other times we are the bullies. It is what it is. They do have an agenda, and sometimes it goes against you and sometimes for you. But to always think we are the victims, it's just plain delusional.
How do you he didnt make any moves to make sure it didnt happen again ? Are you seriously accusing them of doing this over and over behind the scenes even after that ?Publicly. How do you know what he told him privately? It's BB's job to take the fall. You don't actually expect Kraft to condone it publicly, do you?
He called him a shmuck? The horror! Where was the assurance? Punishment from Kraft? What moves did Kraft make to make sure it would never happen again? He was a shmuck. He got caught and made our franchise look bad.
But the point is you cannot say the Patriots are being investigated for what happened later until after the referees are investigated and it is determined whether the balls given to the ball boy were pristine.My emphasis. That's more than merely "investigating the referee". And Florio also says (and I know it's Florio, but it is easily verifiable) that the ball attendants are team employees, not league ones.
When are you claiming that we cheated before?Spygate ruined our brand? The Patriots have been getting even more rich since. The team's value has grown. The benefits of winning, even while punished for cheating, outweighed the repercussions.
That's just a fact.
He'll be even richer if we win this Superbowl, even if it turns out we cheated again, then if we would have lost honestly. He will sell more shirts, more hats, more gear, and people will buy them anyway, no matter what.
Please explain why Goodell penalized the Pats a first round draft pick for having a camera in the wrong location when the penalty for cheating on the cap by the Bronco's and 49ers was only a third round pick. Explain to me how the supposedly confidential tape got leaked to his wife's tv station. Explain to me what happened to the investigation of tape leak. Explain to me why the tapes were destroyed when the only thing that could be show would be other teams doing the same thing. Explain to me how the Jets can trip a player in a game and only have a flunky. When you can rationally explain these facts, then I will happily admit that you are the moral compass of the Pats you purport to be.
To me, the most likely scenario for any skullduggery was coming out of the locker room to start the half and using an underinflated ball for just that one drive. That would be the easiest time to swap out a ball, you're in the locker room, no cameras, etc.
Isn't the cited source on that article simply Kravitz BS?I keep checking espn.com for any new news. The first line of their article on this says: "The NFL is investigating whether the New England Patriots intentionally deflated footballs during their victory over the Indianapolis Colts in Sunday's rain-soaked AFC Championship Game."
Hope they screwed up and just assumed this.