Brandon Browner not at practice Thursday Oct 9

[supafly]

Jeff Howe claims that Browner is struggling to pick up our system.

It Is What It Is >> Brandon Browne reportedly struggling to pick up Patriots' D

Brandon Browner struggling to grasp Patriots defense | Boston Herald

 

[sevengables_2207]

He will really have to play impressively to justify his salary then, if that's the case.

I honestly have no idea or prediction about how he'll be used. It's a mystery to me.

Agree on having to play impressively, but first he has to earn the trust of the coaches during practices. Word is he is struggling to pick up the defense thus far...

 

[Jackson 2]

Jeff Howe claims that Browner is struggling to pick up our system.

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...portedly-struggling-to-pick-up-pats-d-system/

That may be, but I'm a little skeptical about reporters and their sources these days. As an aside, Tom Curran on Sports Central this evening said he has not heard anything about Brownet's alleged difficulties with the system. Who knows?

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Jeff Howe claims that Browner is struggling to pick up our system.

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports...portedly-struggling-to-pick-up-pats-d-system/

Sherman was right. Seattle CBs are told really only one thing and he hinted that Browner might have a problem getting a more complicated system. Which is why Sherman can't be considered the best CB in the NFL when he doesn't even leave his side of the field.

 

[supafly]

Out of any relevant player on our roster, Browner may be the one that puzzles me as to how they plan on using him.

I think his talent is overrated by many here (not meaning to sound pessimistic, just giving my opinion), but I do think that his physicality and ability to jam WRs at the LOS may help if/when used properly. I just question his coverage skills after that.

 

[Mack Herron]

Doug Kyed ‏@DougKyedNESN 35m35 minutes ago
Bill Belichick: Brandon Browner Hasn’t Had Issue Learning Patriots Defense http://go.nesn.com/1vWJ6m6

“I don’t think the learning part has been an issue at all,” Belichick said at Gillette Stadium.

 

[TBR]

Good to know (if true) from Belichick that isn't not an issue with learning the defense.

I guess the only thing in his way is that ankle. Perhaps hold him out Sunday and give him the extra 4 days and play him vs the Jests?

 

[Haley]

It is really odd that Belichick is responding to so many stories from internet geniuses this year. It seems like every time a story comes out, he refutes it. Its almost as if he really does MyFace.

 

[JMC00]

“I don’t think the learning part has been an issue at all,” Belichick said at Gillette Stadium.

So another reach by a reporter or another Pats source giving a reporter a used bill of goods? Or Belichick lying because he whiffed on another free agent (98.5 2-6 take on it)?

I know Howe claims the struggles were why he wasn't activated for the Bengals game. But honestly I think it had a lot more to do with him not playing football for 5 weeks and it being a short week practice wise coming off the MNF game.

 

[dales804]

It is really odd that Belichick is responding to so many stories from internet geniuses this year. It seems like every time a story comes out, he refutes it. Its almost as if he really does MyFace.

He wasn't asked about the story. He was asked how Browner is doing picking up the defensive playbook. And all this negative press does for the Patriots is give BB another chance to stand up for one of his players and unite the team even more. BB knows exactly what's reported/said in print and on the radio. Just because he doesn't help the media out with easy stories, doesn't mean he isn't paying attention to what is said about his team.

 

[JMC00]

That's right Howe stick to your guns

Jeff Howe @jeffphowe
Obviously. He's gonna stick up for his veterans RT @RizzleFlow: @jeffphowe Bill denying any problems Browner had adapting to Pats D


Maybe it's me but I wonder if the Pats are taking a piss on the local papers. Two "sources say" stories in as many weeks. One to the Globe. One to the Herald. Only for Belichick to come out and address each as false.

 

[Marinlik]

That's right Howe stick to your guns

Jeff Howe @jeffphowe
Obviously. He's gonna stick up for his veterans RT @RizzleFlow: @jeffphowe Bill denying any problems Browner had adapting to Pats D


Maybe it's me but I wonder if the Pats taking a piss on the local papers. Two "sources say" stories in a many weeks. One to the Globe. One to the Herald. Only for Belichick to come out and address each as false.

Wouldn't surprise me for a second if Bill sent out some guys to give some false info to the press.

 

[SVN]

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-.../4769804/what-is-holding-brandon-browner-back

 

[SVN]

That's right Howe stick to your guns

Jeff Howe @jeffphowe
Obviously. He's gonna stick up for his veterans RT @RizzleFlow: @jeffphowe Bill denying any problems Browner had adapting to Pats D


Maybe it's me but I wonder if the Pats are taking a piss on the local papers. Two "sources say" stories in as many weeks. One to the Globe. One to the Herald. Only for Belichick to come out and address each as false.

Yeah. If BB doesnt say anything then obviously it is true. If he addresses it, 'what else is he going to say'. The media is always right.

 

[voluntarysaftey]

I don't think these receivers are failing because the system is too complicated. If that were the case, you would see WR's drafted by the Pats that have gotten cut and have moved on to productive careers. How many of those can you think of off the top of your head?

We've had atleast two free agent receivers coming off good (by their own standards) years and then completely fail here -- so it's likely that all rookies get strenuously tested for the mental aspects, so Bill believes the draft picks he selects can learn the Pats system -- but maybe he doesn't test free agents or trades in the same manner -- as there often is a rush to complete the signing.

It's quite possible that Browner isn't learning the Pats system instinctively -- I don't think Sherman was saying the Seattle system is 'do whatever you want' -- or even simple -- but that it's not based on a lot of individual reads and assuming everyone on the defense all makes the same reads. So it might be 'this play is going to be a cover 2 man; or this play is a cover 6' and then the players know what that is and they can execute it without thinking.
If the play is 'if the receiver lines up here, then do this; if the receiver runs a slant, then play it this way' then unless you're able to learn to process all that information instantaneously, you'll be thinking instead of doing during the play.

I think one glaring fault of BB's system is to not bend it to the strengths of his players. It took them 4 weeks to really figure out what was obvious after seeing Revis play with the Jets and with Tampa.

And for offense, it would seem to me that its even easier to bend the system. If a receiver is able to be productive, but just can't learn to adjust their pattern based on the defense, then you get them a set pattern and let the other receivers react.

On D, maybe reducing 'during play' decision making gets more overall productivity

 

[Deus Irae]

We've had atleast two free agent receivers coming off good (by their own standards) years and then completely fail here -- so it's likely that all rookies get strenuously tested for the mental aspects, so Bill believes the draft picks he selects can learn the Pats system -- but maybe he doesn't test free agents or trades in the same manner -- as there often is a rush to complete the signing.

It's quite possible that Browner isn't learning the Pats system instinctively -- I don't think Sherman was saying the Seattle system is 'do whatever you want' -- or even simple -- but that it's not based on a lot of individual reads and assuming everyone on the defense all makes the same reads. So it might be 'this play is going to be a cover 2 man; or this play is a cover 6' and then the players know what that is and they can execute it without thinking.
If the play is 'if the receiver lines up here, then do this; if the receiver runs a slant, then play it this way' then unless you're able to learn to process all that information instantaneously, you'll be thinking instead of doing during the play.

I think one glaring fault of BB's system is to not bend it to the strengths of his players. It took them 4 weeks to really figure out what was obvious after seeing Revis play with the Jets and with Tampa.

And for offense, it would seem to me that its even easier to bend the system. If a receiver is able to be productive, but just can't learn to adjust their pattern based on the defense, then you get them a set pattern and let the other receivers react.

On D, maybe reducing 'during play' decision making gets more overall productivity

1.) LaFell has been picking up the offense fine

2.) You can't really play a lot of press man when Ryan is your CB2.

The "This stuff's too difficult" argument is way overblown.

 

[doesntmatter1]

I would like to actually see Browner play for us sometime soon, but if he is a bust the timing may just work out in our favor. The Seahawks are a little thin at cb and I wonder if they would be interested in trading for him. Win/win for both teams.

 

[supafly]

I would like to actually see Browner play for us sometime soon, but if he is a bust the timing may just work out in our favor. The Seahawks are a little thin at cb and I wonder if they would be interested in trading for him. Win/win for both teams.

I don't think we'd get much of anything, to be honest. It's not like he's going to justify anything more than a late round pick.

 

[MrNathanDrake]

We could've used Browner against TE's vs. Bills and Chiefs

Their TE's gained way too many yards on us

 

[supafly]

We could've used Browner against TE's vs. Bills and Chiefs

Their TE's gained way too many yards on us

I hate to assume that any move is made to try and combat one team, but it's probably safe to say that Browner may have been brought in to help with Julius Thomas and the Broncos amongst some other key assignments.

As long as he's ready for that game, I have no other real concerns about his playing time. I would expect him to get his feet wet in the game prior to the DEN one, and depending on his injury/understanding of the defense, he may not play until week #8 after the long 10 day break.