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Remember when Tom was filming this PSA back in 2006? YouTube - "ONE Vote" Spot - YouTube Special Edition

The notion that Tom has only now gone into celebrity status in silly. He's always been that guy. Fans really need to stop digging deeper into the lives of favorite sports players if they are going to react this way when they find out the player is different then them. Its silly.

As for climate change, its not a question of whether the climate is changing, it is a question of whether or not humans cause that change and can effect that change by their actions. The earths climate has always changed.
 
Blah blah blah blah blah, something stupid, blah blah blah.

Ok, I know many on this board will want to stone me for writing this but so be it, rant mode off.

A) Whether or not you believe in climate change, conservation and reduced use of energy makes sense on many levels.

B) He may have spent an hour of his free time filming this spot. At the very maximum. I shoot spots like this. Heck, he probably walked on set and had it done it in 5 minutes reading off a prompter. You might as well get mad at him for going to the bathroom on his free time, b/c that may very well be the amount of time it took. Which is besides the point, he did this on his free time. If you really think that took a serious chunk out of his workout or Patriots time, then you're a flat-out moron. Look, these people are adults with lives, with families, with hobbies, with other responsibilities. Some guys have their own businesses (Colvin), some guys go around chasing tail (Roethlisberger), some guys make stupid Oreo ads (the Mannings). The point is, do you really want these guys to devote their lives to football 24/7 so that by the time they retire they have absolutely NOTHING else going on in their lives and are about as equipped to deal with the world as Morgan Freeman in Shawshank Redemption? Get a grip, man. These people have lives, and football - for them - is very finite.

C) Climate change is probably important to Tom's wife. Like any good husband, he probably wants to support her and something she cares about. So sue him.

The irony is you compare him to Tebow who was just enveloped in controversy over a POLITICAL SPOT aired for the Super Bowl. LOL. Come on. So I'm guessing Tebow just shares your political views and Brady doesn't. Good argument.
 
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Snake eyes is butt hurt that Brady doesn't share his political views. So he responds by going ad hom.
 
The thing everyone is ignoring is that he said lets draft Tebow, now there's someone who would never do an advert on an incendiary topic without having all the relevant information just because of who he is.

Sign him up. never mind the fact he can't f'n take the thing from under centre, drop or throw, hes bound to be a success.
 
The thing everyone is ignoring is that he said lets draft Tebow, now there's someone who would never do an advert on an incendiary topic without having all the relevant information just because of who he is.

Sign him up. never mind the fact he can't f'n take the thing from under centre, drop or throw, hes bound to be a success.

B...but he scrambles like a plodding fullback and cries in post game pressers! His drive is undeniable!
 
snakeyes would package our first and three second round picks to the rams, pick tebow, sit back and wait for the superbowls to start rolling in.
 
I wonder what the pair's carbon footprint is? Turn off your lights, Tom...save the world.


After all she does fly around the world, no? Haha toooooooooooo funny, hey turn off your lights for 1 hour while i fly around the world in my G5 LMFAO! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:


Hypocrites!!:rolleyes:


Yes draft Tebow, hes a baller! Besides we need a future QB!
 
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A) Whether or not you believe in climate change, conservation and reduced use of energy makes sense on many levels.

B) He may have spent an hour of his free time filming this spot. At the very maximum. I shoot spots like this. Heck, he probably walked on set and had it done it in 5 minutes reading off a prompter. You might as well get mad at him for going to the bathroom on his free time, b/c that may very well be the amount of time it took. Which is besides the point, he did this on his free time. If you really think that took a serious chunk out of his workout or Patriots time, then you're a flat-out moron. Look, these people are adults with lives, with families, with hobbies, with other responsibilities. Some guys have their own businesses (Colvin), some guys go around chasing tail (Roethlisberger), some guys make stupid Oreo ads (the Mannings). The point is, do you really want these guys to devote their lives to football 24/7 so that by the time they retire they have absolutely NOTHING else going on in their lives and are about as equipped to deal with the world as Morgan Freeman in Shawshank Redemption? Get a grip, man. These people have lives, and football - for them - is very finite.

C) Climate change is probably important to Tom's wife. Like any good husband, he probably wants to support her and something she cares about. So sue him.

The irony is you compare him to Tebow who was just enveloped in controversy over a POLITICAL SPOT aired for the Super Bowl. LOL. Come on. So I'm guessing Tebow just shares your political views and Brady doesn't. Good argument.

I think you're missing my main point so I'll try to make it very clear and then I'm done with this thread.

I'm not against Brady or anyone else having a life but I will always make judgments on a person because of their actions: I WILL think of Roethlisberger is a scumbag for what he did/does, not that he "chases tail" but rather that he's a piece of crap who thinks he's entitled and doesn't seem to understand the word "no". I will think of Manning as being too eager for a dollar by doing stupid ads which make him look foolish (Oreos), I don't have any problem with him doing ads to earn a buck but please maintain your integrity, that being said I think some of the MasterCard ads have actually been pretty amusing.

I'm pissed about Brady for the WWF ad because 1) he's jumping on a political bandwagon and 2) I don't think he did the slightest bit of homework before doing so. I'm not upset that his politics might not agree with mine, if someone can back up their opinion with logic and solid information I'll respect them even if they don't agree with me, but I bet anything he can't back up this "climate change" nonsense at all, and when the proposed "solutions" to it will bring the US standard of living on par with Mexico's then Brady MUST take responsibility for supporting that.

I think you are absolutely correct that his wife is probably into it and he's simply going along with it, that doesn't make him a good husband but rather a good servant. Last time I checked a man doesn't abdicate the right to have his own opinions when he gets married but if that's what's happening here it's part of a disturbing trend. Late in the season Brady told reporters that his various injuries weren't an issue affecting his play, that his biggest problem was getting enough sleep at night with his newborn son. Seeing how he walks her dog and goes grocery shopping for her while wearing that awful "TB12" hat why is it that he can't get a good nights sleep?

Does she have a job in which not being at your peak means you might suffer a crippling injury? No, but it seems he's still the one who gets up during the night and tends to their son. I don't like seeing a guy that I had all the respect for in the world become an empty-headed Hollywood celebrity who's balls are kept soundly in his wife's purse. I sincerely hope I'm over-reacting and reading into things too much, and that time will prove me wrong, I will happily eat crow if we see TFB emerge once again and take control of the NFL, I just don't see it happening while Brady is with Giselle, she's Yoko Ono 2.0.

And lastly, why do you claim that Tebow did a political ad? I know that was the hype before the Superbowl but the ad was NOT about anything political, it was for "Focus on the Family", I checked out the website the day after the Superbowl and found that it's about helping people deal with issues, it's NOT about any type of legislation.
 
I think you're missing my main point so I'll try to make it very clear and then I'm done with this thread.

I'm not against Brady or anyone else having a life but I will always make judgments on a person because of their actions: I WILL think of Roethlisberger is a scumbag for what he did/does, not that he "chases tail" but rather that he's a piece of crap who thinks he's entitled and doesn't seem to understand the word "no". I will think of Manning as being too eager for a dollar by doing stupid ads which make him look foolish (Oreos), I don't have any problem with him doing ads to earn a buck but please maintain your integrity, that being said I think some of the MasterCard ads have actually been pretty amusing.

I'm pissed about Brady for the WWF ad because 1) he's jumping on a political bandwagon and 2) I don't think he did the slightest bit of homework before doing so. I'm not upset that his politics might not agree with mine, if someone can back up their opinion with logic and solid information I'll respect them even if they don't agree with me, but I bet anything he can't back up this "climate change" nonsense at all, and when the proposed "solutions" to it will bring the US standard of living on par with Mexico's then Brady MUST take responsibility for supporting that.

I think you are absolutely correct that his wife is probably into it and he's simply going along with it, that doesn't make him a good husband but rather a good servant. Last time I checked a man doesn't abdicate the right to have his own opinions when he gets married but if that's what's happening here it's part of a disturbing trend. Late in the season Brady told reporters that his various injuries weren't an issue affecting his play, that his biggest problem was getting enough sleep at night with his newborn son. Seeing how he walks her dog and goes grocery shopping for her while wearing that awful "TB12" hat why is it that he can't get a good nights sleep?

Does she have a job in which not being at your peak means you might suffer a crippling injury? No, but it seems he's still the one who gets up during the night and tends to their son. I don't like seeing a guy that I had all the respect for in the world become an empty-headed Hollywood celebrity who's balls are kept soundly in his wife's purse. I sincerely hope I'm over-reacting and reading into things too much, and that time will prove me wrong, I will happily eat crow if we see TFB emerge once again and take control of the NFL, I just don't see it happening while Brady is with Giselle, she's Yoko Ono 2.0.

And lastly, why do you claim that Tebow did a political ad? I know that was the hype before the Superbowl but the ad was NOT about anything political, it was for "Focus on the Family", I checked out the website the day after the Superbowl and found that it's about helping people deal with issues, it's NOT about any type of legislation.

but draft tebow yeah? its not as if he literally has none of the requisite skillset to play the position at the pro level.
 
That's it, I think they should draft Tebow as his replacement, TFB is gone!

Did he bother to do any actual research before jumping on board with this junk science theory regarding "climate change"? Of course not, he's simply being an empty head celebrity who goes along with trendy political bandwagons that sound nice.

Tom F'n Brady the football player has been replaced with Tom Brady The Celebrity'.

Why in quotes? Climate change is so real.
 
I'm all about turning off lights if you don't need them, it means lower electric bills, it's common sense to utilize limited resources as economically as possible but that's not what Brady is advocating, he's supporting the WWF's "Earth Hour" event.

"On Earth Hour hundreds of millions of people around the world will come together to call for action on climate change..."

There you go, the purpose of it isn't to support common sense and lower your electric bill, it's to send a political message supporting 1) the Bull**** AGW theory, and 2) far reaching legislation that will have profound consequences (intended and unintended) on our lives.

What makes this even worse is that I don't think Brady would be doing this if he wasn't married to Giselle, she's become an anchor pulling him into this celebrity world, if he married a market analyst or software designer I think he'd still be TFB.


Go tell all your ideas to the polar bears...oh wait you cant, they are dead.
 
Climate Change is real..."man made" climate change is bunk.

I really believe that we should conserve all of our natural resources to the greatest extent possible, but the idea that we're warming the "planet" (know as "Earth" by normal people) is a lie. Scientists that need a pipeline to free cash and willing Pols who need a tax laden reason to exist have to perpetuate this lie in order to justify their hands in our pockets. Go away, bad, evil people!

Sorry Tom, but I may make a "bold statement" of my own at 8:30 pm on March 27th by illuminating the neighborhood for an hour. Sometimes you have to break from your own practices to make a larger point.
 
I think you're missing my main point so I'll try to make it very clear and then I'm done with this thread.

I'm not against Brady or anyone else having a life but I will always make judgments on a person because of their actions: I WILL think of Roethlisberger is a scumbag for what he did/does, not that he "chases tail" but rather that he's a piece of crap who thinks he's entitled and doesn't seem to understand the word "no". I will think of Manning as being too eager for a dollar by doing stupid ads which make him look foolish (Oreos), I don't have any problem with him doing ads to earn a buck but please maintain your integrity, that being said I think some of the MasterCard ads have actually been pretty amusing.

I'm pissed about Brady for the WWF ad because 1) he's jumping on a political bandwagon and 2) I don't think he did the slightest bit of homework before doing so. I'm not upset that his politics might not agree with mine, if someone can back up their opinion with logic and solid information I'll respect them even if they don't agree with me, but I bet anything he can't back up this "climate change" nonsense at all, and when the proposed "solutions" to it will bring the US standard of living on par with Mexico's then Brady MUST take responsibility for supporting that.

First, a lot of fairly intelligent people are on board the Climate Change bandwagon that Giselle is. To flippantly dismiss their opinion seems a little absurd coming from someone, who like me, is spending his time posting on a Patriots message board.

I stay out of politics, the only things I know about climate change come from the only non-sports magazine I read, which is National Geographic. That is literally the extent of my knowledge on the subject, so I have absolutely no opinion on the matter, I have evolved into having a self-proclaimed apathy on anything political at this point. All I know is, I generally try to do what I deem best for the environment whether climate change is manmade or not. To me, the Climate Change argument is a red herring. Whether or not I have heart problems, I probably shouldn't be eating McD's every day. Likewise, we should probably be conserving electricity just because it makes sense.

That said, if the end result of this ad - or any ad with similar content - is people become more aware of their energy usage, why would you have a problem with that?

I think you are absolutely correct that his wife is probably into it and he's simply going along with it, that doesn't make him a good husband but rather a good servant. Last time I checked a man doesn't abdicate the right to have his own opinions when he gets married but if that's what's happening here it's part of a disturbing trend.

All I know about Tom Brady's view on the environment are in that video. I'm sure like the vast majority of the population, he probably has a reasonable concern about what's going on. I hate to break it to you, but you are in the minority opinion around here when it comes to climate change, whether you are right or not, I don't know. All I know is, I'm sure Giselle appreciates the support. And to Brady, who seems like a pretty secure guy, supporting his wife is more important to him than worrying about being called his wife's servant, or having his wife compared to Yoko Ono, or whatever it else that worries those less safe in their own skin. If Tom Brady were adamantly against being eco-friendly - and I highly doubt he is - then I bet he doesn't do this ad. But, if he like most people, has a reasonable view on the issue that being eco-friendly is logical, then he'd take it a step further and support something that is important to the person he's married to, particularly given he has the celebrity & power to be heard.

Honestly, the spot couldn't be any more innocuous.

Late in the season Brady told reporters that his various injuries weren't an issue affecting his play, that his biggest problem was getting enough sleep at night with his newborn son. Seeing how he walks her dog and goes grocery shopping for her while wearing that awful "TB12" hat why is it that he can't get a good nights sleep?

Might it have occurred to you that Tom Brady - like many fathers - enjoys spending time with his children, and that he will gladly exchange a few hours of sleep for spending time with something he fathered?

Does she have a job in which not being at your peak means you might suffer a crippling injury? No, but it seems he's still the one who gets up during the night and tends to their son. I don't like seeing a guy that I had all the respect for in the world become an empty-headed Hollywood celebrity who's balls are kept soundly in his wife's purse. I sincerely hope I'm over-reacting and reading into things too much, and that time will prove me wrong, I will happily eat crow if we see TFB emerge once again and take control of the NFL, I just don't see it happening while Brady is with Giselle, she's Yoko Ono 2.0.

You're going to make an attempt to know what Tom/Giselle's parenting dynamic is like based on one comment in an interview - to the point where you can say who is changing their kids diapers at night? That's kind of sick.

Who was Brady dating in 2007 when he shattered QB records and led the team to a perfect regular season and had them one fluke play away from the greatest sports season in modern time?

And lastly, why do you claim that Tebow did a political ad? I know that was the hype before the Superbowl but the ad was NOT about anything political, it was for "Focus on the Family", I checked out the website the day after the Superbowl and found that it's about helping people deal with issues, it's NOT about any type of legislation.

Did Tom Brady mention legislation in that spot? Was his spot political in nature? Did he support a certain political group? Are you honestly trying to tell me that abortion is not as polarizing an issue as the environment? What would you point be anyway? What does being a liberal have to do with performance on the field? You've already said it isn't an issue of free time - so its an issue of political views to you. I guess Tom Brady backing his wife on the issue of Climate Change - which most people would back him on too - is less of a distraction than Tim Tebow's right wing Christian views??

So let me summarize: you have a different lifestyle & political views than the NE Patriots quarterback - you are intolerant of his lifestyle and viewpoint, and this is of major concern for you - as you believe his lifestyle and political views will affect his ability to work hard and play football. Honestly, I don't think your POV could make any less sense to me. You saw Tom Brady do a spot which you disagreed with, and tried to tie it to his ability to play football. There is no correlation.
 
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Please tell me which of my points is unsupported, your just pissed I'm talking legitimate smack about your hero, whose the idiot now?

.........you
 
Climate Change is real..."man made" climate change is bunk.

I really believe that we should conserve all of our natural resources to the greatest extent possible, but the idea that we're warming the "planet" (know as "Earth" by normal people) is a lie. Scientists that need a pipeline to free cash and willing Pols who need a tax laden reason to exist have to perpetuate this lie in order to justify their hands in our pockets. Go away, bad, evil people!

Sorry Tom, but I may make a "bold statement" of my own at 8:30 pm on March 27th by illuminating the neighborhood for an hour. Sometimes you have to break from your own practices to make a larger point.

Emissions

That shows carbon emissions over a historical period. When overlaid with temperature changes, we see rapid changes unlike anything ever seen before from tree rings and ice cores.

Now, this could be mere coincidence. If there weren't further evidence of changes in oxygenation in our oceans (partly unrelated to climate change but more related to the composition of the atmosphere). Here, there correlation doesn't hold because temperature change and increased emissions are not being correlated. Rather, the ocean is directly impacted by changes to the atmosphere that have nothing to do with warming or temperatures, and those changes are man-made.

So, far, the NASA scientists who have been warning of man-made global warming all believe that there studies have understated the matter, and they've been shocked by huge ocean dead zones, rapid acceleration of ice cap melting, etc.

The head of NASA atmospherics is the biggest alarmist out there, and he had Pres. Bush's ear on this.

I do think there are other possibilities that will prevent global warming. For one, scientists have noted a remarkable lack of activity on the sun for the past year or so. The last time the sun has gone dormant in this manner was half a millennium ago, and some people theorize that if the sun doesn't kick up soon, we may be seeing an effect that could last 50-75, which will cause a concomitant temperature drop. If that's so, we will likely burn out of fossil fuels or at least greatly reduce them by the time the sun activity kicks in again. Hopefully, the vast tundra will not have melted away by that time.
 
I'm pissed about Brady for the WWF ad because 1) he's jumping on a political bandwagon and 2) I don't think he did the slightest bit of homework before doing so.

You are very ignorant in stating that Global warming is a political issue. Exactly what political advantage does it have?

The actions taken in the name of Global Warming is pure democracy. As I have pointed out, it is anti-centralist, anti-monopoly and conglomerate. All of the actions in reaction to Global Warming makes all of us more independent, and more free-willed. Instead of depending on a corporation for energy, we would be depending on elements in our own backyard and in our house.

How is that un-American?

I would rather be dependent on the solar panel on top of my roof, than a oil field halfway around the world.

Who are you to say Brady did not do any homework? There is no way you can substantiate that claim.
 
Emissions

I do think there are other possibilities that will prevent global warming. For one, scientists have noted a remarkable lack of activity on the sun for the past year or so. The last time the sun has gone dormant in this manner was half a millennium ago, and some people theorize that if the sun doesn't kick up soon, we may be seeing an effect that could last 50-75, which will cause a concomitant temperature drop. If that's so, we will likely burn out of fossil fuels or at least greatly reduce them by the time the sun activity kicks in again. Hopefully, the vast tundra will not have melted away by that time.

The objectivity of the data used to render the "conclusions" by any University or scientific research body even partially beholden to Federal funding streams is highly suspect. I welcome rational discourse, but since science is now as partisan as hardcore politics or religion (I suppose it really always has been), that won't be happening. However, I'm not inclined to believe that the activities of men are warming the entire earth. I mean, do people really think that? When in doubt, follow the money. If the Earth was detected to be pulling away from the Sun at 10 feet per year, could we induce a steady temp by increasing the production and consumption of fossil fuels to offset the predicted drop in temp? Puh-leeze. People are so self important sometimes.
 
This thread is amazing!


Climate conditions aside, we know for a fact that there is a finite amount of resources in the world. It is logical to try and conserve resources.
 
After all she does fly around the world, no? Haha toooooooooooo funny, hey turn off your lights for 1 hour while i fly around the world in my G5 LMFAO! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:


Hypocrites!!:rolleyes:


Yes draft Tebow, hes a baller! Besides we need a future QB!



Again i say! GloBULL Whining is the biggest scam this world has ever seen. Oh im sorry its bot GloBULL Warming anymore, its now called Climate Change Bahaha it only gets funnier LOL!
 
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Again i say! GloBULL Whining is the biggest scam this world has ever seen. Oh im sorry its bot GloBULL Warming anymore, its now called Climate Change Bahaha it only gets funnier LOL!

I take pity on you, having a conversation with yourself. I encourage you to seek counseling.
 
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