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Since 2000

cavtroop

You mean like Brandon Lloyd?

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NG Pats Fan

I am a big fan of Lloyd, but he is not young and he is not tall.

Rob0729

The Pats run a lot of more precision timing routes that usually favor smaller receivers than bigger ones. Bigger receivers usually have more problems making the breaks and cuts in this offense.

It is a system thing.

The Pats have 5 Super Bowl appearances and three wins since 2000 with Brady breaking passing records and getting two MVP awards. Are you arguing their system since 2000 of not getting young big talented WRs is a failure?

BoTown

That is true. The only tall young WR I can think of that the Pats have picked up since then was P.K. Sam in 2004, drafted in the 5th round, at 6'3" tall.

The tallest WR's in the BB era were Donald Hayes (age 27, 2002 season), J.J. Stokes (age 31, 2003 season), and Randy Moss (age 30, 2007-2010 seasons), all three at 6'4" tall.

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Rob0729

And only Moss succeeded and that was because they revised the offense to fit his skill set. They will do that with an established future HOF WR, but aren't going to do that with a rookie.

Peachhead

We already have two tall receivers that we use a lot. We just call the Tight Ends. Quick twitch, precise guys (i.e. almost always smaller) are the guys that compliment them the best.

signbabybrady

Nope but young receivers are allergic to being able to know this system like Tom does.

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rookBoston

Now that BB has finally drafted a pass rusher early, is this what we have to look forward to on the message board? Threads to gripe about WR?

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Ron Sellers

I understand where you're going with this (and your frustration), but I could not find any correlation whatsoever between productivity and either height, weight, age, or method of acquisition.


Let's take a look and see the receivers that the Pats have added in the Belichick era. Players that never made a roster were not included.


2000:
Shockmain Davis (23) 6-0, 205 - UDFA
Curtis Jackson (23) 5-10, 190 - UDFA
Chris Calloway (32) 5-10, 188 - vet FA

2001:
Fred Coleman (26) 6-0, 190 - FA
Bert Emmanuel (31) 5-10, 180 - vet FA
Charles Johnson (29) 6-0, 200 - vet FA
David Patten (27) 5-10, 190 - vet FA
Torrance Small (31) 6-3, 209 - vet FA

2002:
Deion Branch (23) 5-9, 195 - 2nd round, 65th pick
David Givens (22) 6-0, 212 - 7th round, 253rd pick
Donald Hayes (27) 6-4, 220 - FA

2003:
Bethel Johnson (24) 5-11, 200 - 2nd round, 45th pick
J. J. Stokes (31) 6-4, 218 - veteran FA

2004:
Kevin Kasper (27) 6-1, 197 - vet FA
P.K. Sam (21) 6-3, 210 - 5th round, 164th pick

2005:
Bam Childress (23) 5-10, 185 - UDFA
Andre' Davis (26) 6-1, 195 - FA
Tim Dwight (30) 5-8, 180 - FA

2006:
Reche Caldwell (27) 6-0, 215 - FA
Doug Gabriel (26) 6-2, 215 - FA
Jabar Gaffney (26) 6-1, 205 - FA
Chad Jackson (21) 6-1, 205 - 2nd round, 36th pick
Kelvin Kight (24) 6-0, 209 - UDFA
Jonathan Smith (25) 5-10, 194 - FA

2007:
Randy Moss (30) 6-4, 215 - trade
Donte' Stallworth (27) 6-0, 197 - vet FA
Kelley Washington (28) 6-3, 218 - vet FA
Wes Welker (26) 5-9, 190 - trade

2008:
Sam Aiken (28) 6-2, 204 - FA

2009:
Julian Edelman (23) 6-0, 198 - 7th round, 232nd pick
Joey Galloway (38) 5-11, 197 - vet FA
Isaiah Stanback (25) 6-3, 216 - FA
Brandon Tate (22) 6-1, 195 - 3rd round, 83rd pick

2010:
Taylor Price (23) 6-0, 204 - 3rd round, 90th pick

2011:
Tiquan Underwood (24) 6-1, 180 - FA