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iapatsfan · 07-31-2010, 10:20 PM

This Brady the union guy thing is starting to really become irritating. Unions of any type have completely outlived their purpose. Brady states, "we want the money going to the players." Who is he to say that? He is an employee of the New England Patriots, nothing more. The owners should be able to spend their money how ever they would like. They put up the coin to buy the team and have this right. If they want to be cheap, let them. Their product will suffer, and they will see the results in their team's popularity and revenue. Why is there a union to begin with? Collusion laws do not allow competing entities to get together and take advantage of anyone. For example, the owners can't get together and say "let's agree to not offer the players any more than xxxx so we can increase our profits." All of the competing teams should be allowed to offer their players as little or as much as they want to. Players will choose to go to the teams offering the best packages, which will force the others teams to offer more. Look at the destruction unions have caused in every other industry (automotive, education, government, etc...) Unions force companies to offer more than the market calls for, and industries always suffer as a result. If unions are allowed to carry as much weight in the NFL as they have in other industries, to assume pro football will not eventually suffer the same fate is being extremely naive. The fact that Brady follows this union line makes me literally sick to my stomach.

Elijah · 07-31-2010, 10:39 PM

inb4 political debate about unions

***Jackson 2*** · 07-31-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iapatsfan

This Brady the union guy thing is starting to really become irritating. Unions of any type have completely outlived their purpose. Brady states, "we want the money going to the players." Who is he to say that? He is an employee of the New England Patriots, nothing more. The owners should be able to spend their money how ever they would like. They put up the coin to buy the team and have this right. If they want to be cheap, let them. Their product will suffer, and they will see the results in their team's popularity and revenue. Why is there a union to begin with? Collusion laws do not allow competing entities to get together and take advantage of anyone. For example, the owners can't get together and say "let's agree to not offer the players any more than xxxx so we can increase our profits." All of the competing teams should be allowed to offer their players as little or as much as they want to. Players will choose to go to the teams offering the best packages, which will force the others teams to offer more. Look at the destruction unions have caused in every other industry (automotive, education, government, etc...) Unions force companies to offer more than the market calls for, and industries always suffer as a result. If unions are allowed to carry as much weight in the NFL as they have in other industries, to assume pro football will not eventually suffer the same fate is being extremely naive. The fact that Brady follows this union line makes me literally sick to my stomach.

Enjoy your vomiting. Please feel free to contribute more enlightening observations. Holy $%^&...

***Rex Ryan's Gut*** · 07-31-2010, 10:46 PM

lol. Really dude?

***ctpatsfan77*** · 07-31-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iapatsfan

Collusion laws do not allow competing entities to get together and take advantage of anyone. For example, the owners can't get together and say "let's agree to not offer the players any more than xxxx so we can increase our profits." All of the competing teams should be allowed to offer their players as little or as much as they want to.

I'm not going to touch your political comments with a 10,000-foot pole.

That said, there's one very simple reason you need the NFLPA: without a collective bargaining agreement, the draft would violate anti-trust laws.

Boston Jay · 07-31-2010, 11:10 PM

....

For real?

They_Hate_We · 07-31-2010, 11:19 PM

wow...that is one big paragraph. My eyeballs are aching.

eagle eye · 07-31-2010, 11:33 PM

OP clearly has issues and they have got nothing to do with football.

***Deus Irae*** · 07-31-2010, 11:39 PM

So...

Andre Smith reportedly tips the scales at 370 lbs right now.

***DaBruinz*** · 07-31-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iapatsfan

This Brady the union guy thing is starting to really become irritating. Unions of any type have completely outlived their purpose. Brady states, "we want the money going to the players." Who is he to say that? He is an employee of the New England Patriots, nothing more. The owners should be able to spend their money how ever they would like. They put up the coin to buy the team and have this right. If they want to be cheap, let them. Their product will suffer, and they will see the results in their team's popularity and revenue. Why is there a union to begin with? Collusion laws do not allow competing entities to get together and take advantage of anyone. For example, the owners can't get together and say "let's agree to not offer the players any more than xxxx so we can increase our profits." All of the competing teams should be allowed to offer their players as little or as much as they want to. Players will choose to go to the teams offering the best packages, which will force the others teams to offer more. Look at the destruction unions have caused in every other industry (automotive, education, government, etc...) Unions force companies to offer more than the market calls for, and industries always suffer as a result. If unions are allowed to carry as much weight in the NFL as they have in other industries, to assume pro football will not eventually suffer the same fate is being extremely naive. The fact that Brady follows this union line makes me literally sick to my stomach.

You are as bad as the Boston Mediots. How about you put the quote into proper context by giving everyone the rest of the paragraph it came from? Or would that defeat the purpose and make you look even stupider than you already do?

Seriously. Unions are only as strong as the people in them and the companies that they work for allow them to be. In this day and age, many unions have learned to work with the companies or learned that the companies can and are willing to close up shop and move elsewhere.

Unions still have their place, believe it or not.