gonzo99us

sad but true phans!

Disco Volante

Phans?

If the Pats are average, than who's elite?

The Broncos, Colts, Cowboys, Chargers, Jaguars and Redskins all have the same or more losses than us. Bills, Giants and Steelers have a one game advantage and the Kerry Collins led Titans are the only undefeated team in the NFL.

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alamo

They have been so far. Will they be better at the end of the season? History says yes, but that's why some of us will keep watching! (And others will get tired of posting silly topics.)

TheGodInAGreyHoodie

with a .600 win % I would say above average. not the best but better than avg

bakes781

There's certainly plenty of room for improvement. I don't think anyone can deny that!

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JoeSixPat

Why is it sad? What's your point?

According to a former Patriots coach, you are what your record says you are.

That would make the Patriots a slightly better than average team as of right now.

But unless I'm mistaken, the playoffs don't start in October.

Perhaps you'd be surprised to learn what the record of last year's Super Bowl Champion was after their first five games as well.

That would be 3-2 for those of you who don't care to look it up - or a .600 winning percentage.

Perhaps you'd also be surprised to learn that last year's Super Bowl Champion squeaked into the playoffs as a wildcard team at 10-6... a slight improvement over their first five games to a .625 winning percentage.

They were, after 5 games, and as of the playoffs, when VERY few gave them a chance to win the Lombardi, an average team at best by your criteria - and yet peaked not in October, but in January in February.

If you consider yourself a knowledgeable football fan you shouldn't be surprised by any of this - but apparently you are.

And if your point was to illustrate that average teams in October win Super Bowls, and that team with average QBs have also won Super Bowls, you've done your job, and I thank you, as I'm now feeling MUCH better about the Patriots chances this season!

Deus Irae

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Edit.... the censor program won't let the pic through.... oh, well.

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NJPatsfan26

So we are an average team....

God forbid that happening.

As other have posted so far, we have only played 5 games.

We as fans of a team that this website represents should stand by them no matter what....

All these posts about the end of the world and how Cassel should be pulled out and be benched are getting old fast.

This is our team guys....and if you do not want to support them, I suggest you log off this website and go elsewhere....

Rob0729

As long as they win 10 games and correct a lot of their problems by the playoffs, the Pats have a fighting chance. There is no complete team this year in the NFL. With the Pats' schedule, it is possible.

MassPats38

Phans? Is that word the result of a spelling deficiency or are you confusing the Pats with the Phins?

I may be suffering from full-on denial at this point, but 3-2 (.600) approximating a 10-6 record over 16 games is not average by anyone's standards. That would be the 2005 Patriots' record, and for purposes of this season I would welcome it. I thought that team had a chance in the post-season.

There are plenty of issues to fix, but I will keep watching to see if this team can pull it together in time for a playoff run. Average? No. Underperforming to date in some areas? Yes.