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alot on the saints board are defending williams over this audio
what a bunch of retards
Thats not true. read for your self. Creating something that doesn't exist serves no purpose. Very little are defending GW or that we don't need to be fined.
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Thats not true. read for your self. Creating something that doesn't exist serves no purpose. Very little are defending GW or that we don't need to be fined.
i was talking about the saintsreport forum, that must be the retarded one
sorry
saintsreport is full of new comers and bandwagon fans. blackandgold is where a lot of the old time fans talk, and don't be sorry. I apologize theres no way you could know.
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Thats not true. read for your self. Creating something that doesn't exist serves no purpose. Very little are defending GW or that we don't need to be fined.
What about people who have an avatar which is a bounty hunter? Any of those with such poor taste over there?
Im using it as a mark against us, not a thing to be proud of. I never change my avatar. Seems the right thing to do. Im not proud of it. If my team is wrong I have to carry that shame, seemed appropriate .
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Im using it as a mark against us, not a thing to be proud of. I never change my avatar. Seems the right thing to do. Im not proud of it. If my ten is wrong I have to carry that shame, seemed appropriate .
Fair enough. I found this picture of the Saints linebacker corps....
Fair enough. I found this picture of the Saints linebacker corps....
We are completely taken off guard by this also. I think people need to understand that much like a Patriot fans in the old days when their was no hope created blind faith in our boys and team. So, there will be some that won't stop defending them, no matter what anyone says. There is very little reason the Saints as a team should have survived in NO, besides its fan base.WE are so small market. So the fans are intense, and what they did only adds to that. Some will never stop defending Payton. I equate that to your belief in BB here.
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Im using it as a mark against us, not a thing to be proud of. I never change my avatar. Seems the right thing to do. Im not proud of it. If my team is wrong I have to carry that shame, seemed appropriate .
You're a fan, not a player. Unless you sent in cash to augment the bounty pool, you've done nothing about which to be ashamed.
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Was a hit, that injured a player, dirty? If a hit was dirty I think the book should be thrown at the player and likewise to a coach who instructs their players to commit dirty hits.
In Criminal Law 101 you'll hear about there are 2 components to a crime: the guilty act and the guilty intention, and how you need both of them in order to have an actual crime. Williams obviously spoke of the result he wanted (players injured) but unless he's advocating dirty hits to accomplish this is vastly overblown.
Suppose you had Williams saying what he did but all the Saints defenders making clean tackles then I see little to complain about, the players are acting in accordance with the rules.
OTOH, suppose a coach doesnt say anything but his players do a bunch of dirty things which leaves others injured, I see a really big problem there.
That said, it makes me cringe when I routinely see dirty plays that the refs don't call. The total amount of damage the other 31 teams might inflict will dwarf what the Saints will do, even with Williams as a coach, but you don't hear about the league talking about how it's going to tighten up on officiating to further protect the players, it's all about roasting the Saints.
I don't respect that and I think the hyper-focus on the Saints actually blinds us to the much bigger problem. I never heard BB instruct the Patriots to injure players but I still cringed and was embarrassed when Merriweather launched himself, head first, into Todd Head. I thought he should have been ejected from the game and if we lost as a result of him not being able to play I would have been fine with it.
Unfortunately the incidents like that, which take place routinely, get overshadowed. Stalin was right, 1 death is a tragedy but a million is a statistic, in this case the Saints are the "tragedy" and all the other stuff will be overlooked. I believe that one should clean their own backyard before criticizing others about their yard. So, while I continue to see nasty plays which have severe risk of maiming players go uncalled, and also see the NFL do their best to sell DVDs which feature plenty of hits which doubtlessly injured players, I'll be rather unimpressed.
To me it reeks of hypocricy, and a rather transparent attempt to avoid any kind of government attention by showing how hard their going to bring the hammer down on Williams but sending very mixed messages on what's going to be allowed on the field via the officiating.
But that would be a different animal to me--if he'd just been talking a good game and shooting his mouth off to fire up the players, but he actually offered his players money and PAID them when they made a hit injuring another player. That, to me, is what separates this from the typical way coaches talk up their players. Paying someone under-the-table compensation specifically to hurt another person in derivation of the rules of the game is simply criminal.
You're a fan, not a player. Unless you sent in cash to augment the bounty pool, you've done nothing about which to be ashamed.
I know but its my team, its a custom here. Good and bad. we support them and represent them. And we should be ashamed. We deserve this, and many other teams do.
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