tobias funke

Except that is a purely subjective opinion.

So by definition there is question.

I find it very easy to read articles with a critical eye when they include a good dose of quotes from "unnamed sources" and "former employees". The article didn't change any of my 'preconceived notions' not because of them, but simply because it wasn't a very good article.

AndyJohnson

And I am not saying it should. I am saying the article is written as a negative piece about the organization, not about Haley.
Of course, I agree with Pioli's philosophical approach. It does not mean, though, that questions raised about his over attention to detail, or people skills are made up because he has the right macro approach.

tobias funke

I'm not saying they're made up. I don't doubt that the people interviewed said those things.

The issue is credibility and understanding. A glorified secretary doesn't believe the football team is better because of Pioli's micromanagement. What is that supposed to mean to me? What position of authority is she speaking from? Just because someone feels a certain way doesn't make them right.

AzPatsFan

Scott Pioli did not hire Haley; he inherited him. He could have cleaned house, but he didn't, trusting that Haley would provide some continuity, and solve the problem himself, over time. Haley did.

tobias funke

This isn't true at all.

Pioli hired Haley.

Todd Haley takes Kansas City Chiefs coaching job - ESPN

MoLewisrocks

Not sure what planet you posted that from...

He inherited Herm Edwards. He wanted Kirk Ferentz. They had always planned on teaming up when the timing was right. Only Pioli got impatient to strike out on his own and meanwhile Ferentz kids starting attending Iowa and Kirk decided he wanted remain there to coach them. Maybe he thought RAC would jump at the shot to move back to a HC situation, but he oddly stuck it out in Cleveland with Mangini and got his hip replaced. Charlie didn't get fired for another season. They say timing is everything. Haley was his fallback because he was on the JETS staff when Pioli landed there with Bill. Tried to make the connection to the system, although Haley was really never part of it. He was barely a Parcell's guy. Mostly he was his father's son, and his father was an old Steelers personnel guy who had migrated to the JETS. Nepotism is rampant in the game. Haley was Pioli's fallback, but he was a lousy one because he lacks the temperement to be a HC. He almost got Cassel killed that first season, and he planted seeds of doubt about him from the outset in the minds of the fanbase. Charlie salvaged the situation the following year until not surprisingly he and the golf pro couldn't work together. This year he effed up not just the offense but the whole team. That's why he's gone.

blackglass3

Man, what a bunch of whiny crybabies. A secretary asking "How does this make us a better football team?" is a freakin joke. The last line is also very telling: "There was a time it was a great place." Yeah, I would imagine working a job at a pro football team with no accountability was a pretty choice gig...the NERVE of Pioli trying to change the culture and mindset of "Losing is ok".

MoLewisrocks

Not surprisingly Michael Silver, who has been taking it on the chin for his defense of Hue Jackson and lambasting of the Raiders for seemingly finally trying to hire a football guy and qualified GM candidate to overhaul that mess of an organization Al created in his dotage, apparently thinks this article was spot on and no one will want to work for Pioli now and Haley has been vindicated...

So many of todays mediots were born to blather on Yahoo and backslap each other on twitter.

DarrylS

My take is somewhat different, Pioli coming into an organization that was top heavy with a lot of dead weight, cleans house to make the Chiefs a more streamlined organization...

Along the way he pysses a lot of folks off who obviously are angry, an article is written, but the Chiefs did not allow Pioli to contribute to the article, so they can print whatever they want to.... a better article would have been to allow Pioli to counter. Whenever an article deals with unnamed sources then it deserves a double flus....

This is a whole lot of whining and bytching about how business can be done in the NFL authored by a guy who may be KC's version of Ron Borges..

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MoLewisrocks

That dead weight probably talked to the media a lot, before Scott arrived, too. That's how a lot of FO fringe players get ahead in the NFL, quid pro quo with their mediot toadies talking them up. Seems Haley wanted to play that game but his paranoia made it harder to. That he seemed inclined to go that route is grounds enough for firing his ass, the piss poor job he did aside. And this piece has to be giving even the JETS trepidation about hiring this tool, or Wisenhut second thoughts about re-hiring him. Scott won't dignify this crap any more than Bill will. That just gives it legs in a fight you can't win. Speaking of which, winning is what settles it. So that will be Scott's focus from here on out. Getting 53 guys and a support and coaching staff all rowing in the same direction. RAC should help with that. They have the talent, maybe not to win it all, but to win that division and compete in the post season. Haley was just a setback or a roadblock and once removed they once again have a decent shot at achieving their goals. If they fail again, then Scott will be looking for work as justifiably as Haley is now and most of those hacks who lost their cushy NFL gigs in KC still are.

Too many mediots suffer from Matt Millen syndrome, although they appear to be oblivious to how that all turned out. Simply observing something for years doesn't qualify you to run a franchise.